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A SELECTIVE MICROFILM EDITION
PART IV (1899-1910)
Thomas E. Jeffrey Lisa Gitelman Gregory Jankunis David W. Hutchings Leslie Fields
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DOCUMENT FILE SERIES
1903
1903. Automobile (D-03-01)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the design and operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric vehicles. Included are letters to and from John M. Lansden, Jr., of the Birmingham Electric & Manufacturing Co., Levi C. Weir and Arthur Herschmann of the Adams Express Co., and Alexander Churchward of the General Electric Co. regarding the use of Edison storage batteries and electric motors in automobiles.
1903. Battery - Primary (D-03-02)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the primary batteries produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. Many of the items are letters from William S. Logue, sales agent, to William E. Gilmore, vice president and general manager, concerning the use and potential sales of the batteries and the activities of competitors in the field. Many of the documents pertain to competition from, and legal action against, James W. Gladstone, former sales manager for the Edison Manufacturing Co., who began to manufacture similar cells after leaving the company in June 1903.
1903. Battery - Storage - General (D-03-03)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the commercial and technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery. Included are letters concerning the progress of Edison's battery work and the materials to be used. Also included are two undated letters from Edison to Herman E. Dick regarding the composition of cells and the anticipated cost of producing them.
1903. Battery - Storage - Foreign (D-03-04)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the patenting, manufacture, and sale of Edison storage batteries in Europe. Most of the items are letters to or from Herman E. Dick, who was authorized by Edison to exploit the battery commercially throughout Europe and who extensively tested and promoted the cells during 1903. Some of the letters contain brief references to Dick's involvement in the commercial exploitation of Edison's ore milling process. Also included are letters to and from Sigmund Bergmann, who was planning to manufacture Edison's storage batteries at his factory in Berlin.
1903. Dick, Herman E. (D-03-05) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence and other documents pertaining to the personal finances and travel of Herman E. Dick, son of the former Edison associate, A.B. Dick. Herman E. Dick was involved with, among other matters, the commercial exploitation of Edison's storage battery in Europe.
1903. Edison, T.A. - General (D-03-06)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to a variety of subjects. Included are documents that deal with more than one subject or that do not fall under the main subject categories in the Document File. Among the items for 1903 are letters from longtime Edison associates, Charles Batchelor, William J. Hammer, Thomas C. Martin, and Josiah C. Reiff, as well as letters from John H. Harjes, John H. Kellogg, and the firm of Pilling & Crane.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Articles (D-03-07)
This folder contains correspondence requesting Edison to write articles, correspondence relating to articles about Edison or his inventions, and letters from journalists seeking to interview him. Included is a statement that Edison made to the New York Herald on New Year's Eve. The statement and three items with substantive Edison marginalia have been selected.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Book and Journal Orders (D-03-08) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence and other routine documents relating to the ordering of books and journals. One item pertains to Edison's effort to cancel his subscription to Iron Ore.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Clubs and Societies (D-03-09)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's membership and activities in social clubs and professional societies. Included are items pertaining to the American Motor League, the Young Men's Christian Association, the Commercial Telegraphers' Union of America, and other groups.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Employment (D-03-10)
This folder contains correspondence from or about employees and prospective employees. There are also letters soliciting Edison's opinion regarding former employees seeking positions elsewhere. Most of the correspondence relates to employment requests for the West Orange laboratory.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Family (D-03-11)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents by and about Edison's family. Included are numerous letters pertaining to the financial difficulties of Thomas A. Edison, Jr., and William Leslie Edison and their involvement in schemes to exploit the Edison name: the Thomas A. Edison Jr. Chemical Co. and the Edison Automobile Co. Also included are letters by and about Charles F. Stilwell, the brother of Edison's first wife, and items concerning Mina Miller Edison's loss of a diamond ring.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Financial (D-03-12) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's personal investments and other financial interests. Included are items pertaining to Edison's promissory notes and accounts, as well as routine letters from J. P. Morgan & Co. concerning payment of the monthly stipend provided by Edison to his daughter, Marion Edison Oeser.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Name Use (D-03-13) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the use of Edison's name, whether authorized or unauthorized, for advertising, trademark, or other purposes. Among the documents for 1903 are items pertaining to the Edison Polyform and Manufacturing Co.; Edison obesity pills and Edison cigars; an Edison school, employment bureau, and bicycle; and the illegal use of Edison's name by a fortune teller and an electrical supply company. One undated document refers to the Edison Music Co. of Philadelphia. Related documents can be found in the Legal
Department Records. Items concerning the use of the name 'Thomas A. Edison, Jr." can be found in D-03-1 1 (Edison, T.A. - Family).
1903. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - Advice (D-03-14) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence suggesting improvements in Edison's inventions, asking him for advice on technical matters, or requesting his assistance in improving or promoting inventions. Also included are unsolicited letters from inventors about their work. No record of a significant response by Edison has been found for any of these items.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - Business (D-03-1S) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence from individuals requesting agencies for Edison's inventions or seeking to do business with him.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - Personal (D-03-1 6) [not selected]
This folder contains routine personal requests, fan mail, and other items for which no record of a significant response by Edison has been found. Included are letters asking Edison for educational advice, personal information, advice about x-rays, charitable contributions, exhibits of his inventions, and other favors.
1903. Edison, T.A. - Visitors (D-03-1 7) [not selected]
This folder contains routine letters of introduction and routine requests to visit Edison or tour his West Orange laboratory. Substantive letters from individuals who visited the laboratory or company shops on business can be found in the appropriate subject folders.
1903. Edison Manufacturing Company (D-03-1 8) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the Edison Manufacturing Co. Included are items pertaining to real estate, advertising, and the use of phonoplex circuits. Other items in the Document File relating to the Edison Manufacturing Co. can be found in D-03-02 (Battery - Primary) and in D-03-24 (Motion Pictures).
1903. Exhibitions (D-03-1 9)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents concerning electrical and industrial exhibitions. The items for 1903 all pertain to the 1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition (World's Fair) in St. Louis. Included are letters from Samuel Insull encouraging Edison to participate in a historical exhibition of electric light and power technologies.
1903. Fort Myers (D-03-20)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's home and property at Fort Myers, Florida. Most of the items consist of communications between Edison and his caretaker, Ewald Stulpner, regarding landscape improvements, construction projects, and the shipment of supplies to and from Fort Myers.
1903. Glenmont (D-03-21)
This folder contains correspondence, bills, and other documents relating to the furnishing and maintenance of Glenmont, Edison's home in Llewellyn Park.
1903. Mining - General (D-03-22)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to mining and ore milling. Included is correspondence with the firm of Pilling & Crane regarding the status of the Hurd iron mine and assays of zinc ores. Also included is an inquiry enclosing an Edison letter from
1903. Mining - Dry Placer Process (D-03-23)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents regarding Edison's dry placer process for the separation of gold ore. Included are items pertaining to orders of equipment and supplies as well as letters between Cloyd M. Chapman, Edison's mining engineer, and mine owners.
1903. Motion Pictures (D-03-24)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the production and commercial development of motion picture films. Included are items pertaining to film stock and film copyrights; competition with the Armat Motion Picture Co. and the American Mutoscope & Biograph Co.; and the exploitation of foreign markets. Among the correspondents are William E. Gilmore, vice president and general manager of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; John R. Schermerhorn, assistant general manager; F. K. Dolbeer, manager of the Credit Department; Walter S. Stevens, manager of the Foreign Department; James H. White, European sales manager of the Edison Manufacturing Co., Ltd.; and attorney Howard W. Hayes.
1903. Patents (D-03-25)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to foreign and domestic patent applications, patent litigation, and other patent matters. Most of the material consists of letters to Edison from his attorneys. There are also some items pertaining to the dissolution of the firm of Dyer, Edmonds & Dyer and the formation of the partnership of Dyer & Dyer.
1903. Phonograph - General (D-03-26)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and commercial development of phonographs. Among the items for 1903 is a series of letters to Edison from William E. Gilmore, president of the National Phonograph Co., pertaining to foreign sales and manufacture of records and to Edison's relationship with the company.
1903. Phonograph - Edison Phonograph Works (D-03-27)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the Edison Phonograph Works. Many of the items, including a series of reports from the Pinkerton National Detective Agency, pertain to a strike at the Works that began in September A representative sample of the Pinkerton reports has been selected
1903. Phonograph - Moriarty, Stephen F.
(D-03-28) [not selected]
This folder contains bills and correspondence pertaining to the personal affairs of Stephen F. Moriarty, formerly vice president of the Edison United Phonograph Co.
1903. Radio (D-03-29)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and commercial development of wireless telegraphy or radio. The items for 1903 consist of correspondence and memoranda pertaining to the stocks and bonds of the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co.
1903. West Orange Laboratory (D-03-30)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the operation of the West Orange laboratory. Included are lists and memoranda made by Edison concerning tasks to be done and chemicals and equipment to be obtained. Also included are letters pertaining to insurance, postal and express deliveries, laboratory letterhead, and the laboratory time clock.
1903. X-Rays (D-03-31)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to x-ray technology and the dangers of x-rays. Included are items regarding news stories of Edison’s overexposure to x-rays and the ill health of Clarence M. Dally, a former laboratory employee who sustained radiation burns in 1896. There are also letters from William J. Hammer concerning the procurement of radium and the status of technical knowledge within the field.
1903. Automobile (D-03-01)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the design and operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric vehicles. Included are letters to and from John M. Lansden, Jr., of the Birmingham Electric & Manufacturing Co., Levi C. Weir and Arthur Herschmann of the Adams Express Co., and Alexander Churchward of the General Electric Co. regarding the use of Edison storage batteries and electric motors in automobiles.
Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been selected. The items not selected consist primarily of correspondence regarding materials used in electric and gasoline vehicles, including rubber samples and parts ordered from the B. F. Goodrich Co. and other concerns.
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I take pleasure in introducing to you Mr. Arthur Herschmann, Mechanical Engineer, of our Company, who will be glad to sit at your feet and gather your ideas about a wagon. Mr. Hersohmann has had considerable experience in the line of automobiles
and is therefore not so great an ignoramuB as an ordinary draughtsman would be, and so I think he will be able to catch your ideas and put them on paper to your satis¬ faction and mine. When he has the sketch made, I Bhall hope to go out with him in the automobile and see you.
YourB very truly,
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, Orange, N.J.
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I send you to-day per special post 4 punched gear wheels , corresponding in size and number of teeth as you have sent out of raw- hide ; these pinions are only punched and rivited together.
I wish you would give them an Edison test on one of your Automobiles and let me know the result.
I also send you back the raw hide pinions which you have sent.
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You will not remember me, as you never saw me Tout once, and that was at a reception to you in Port Huron when 1 was a youth, hut you will know who I am when I tell you that I am the eldest son of John Edgar Miller, of Port Huron.
I do not, however, wish to trespass upon the old boyhood friendship between you and my father, except in so far as to call your attention to the enclosed article from the Los Angeles Times of Feb. 15th.
I am an enthusiastic user of automobiles, and heretofore used the gas explosion and White steam types. I would very much like to know how authentic the enclosed article is, and whe re and how soon a machine with one of your new batteries could be secured.
I enclose a circular, fac-simile of which was issued by Messrs. JJ. W. Harris & Co., Perry, Coffin & Burr and E. H. Rollins Sc Sons, which will show you my field of activity. It seems quite a coincidence that I should be at the head of an "Edison Electric Company."
I trust that it will not too greatly inconvenience you to devote a f ew moments with your stenographer to the inquiries I have
Thomas A. Edison,
Et. Myers, E!
Dear Sirs
Mr. A. Churchward of the General Electric Company, whom I have just only "been able to see, advises that the two motor ar¬ rangement, to his mind, would not he practical. He thinks the two motors will he much more expensive, and on account of their small size inefficient; he also thinks that he has no motor small enough. He will let me have a blueprint of a motor such as he ad¬ vises to use and upon reoeipt of the latter I will make another de¬ sign. In this I would again use a compensating gear unless ad¬ vised by you that you wish to abide by the two motor arrangement in spite of what I have written above.
Yours respectfully.
Mechanioal Engineer .
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Thomas A.Edison, Esq.,
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My dear Mr .Edison,
I have received the test cells and have just gotten ray testing board finished, but have not received the instruments yet. Expect them in a day or two when I shall start in a series of tests.
In regard to running one of the D.L.& W.cars with your batteries, would say that taking the distance between New York and
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acceleration of 6/10 of a mile per hour^which iB standard steam car practice, the cars making 35 miles an hour maximum would be able to make a schedule speed of 25 miles an hour. 40 seoonds at starting the car would take 160 K.W. and 60 K.W.when running at full speed on the level. The average energy for one hour would be 70 K.W. Taking the car with extra motors and controllers, it would weigh 30 tons without batteries. By putting on 5 tons of batteries, it were possible to make about 100 miles, and as under the very best conditions and proper starting it would take 70 K.W., it would seem necessary to put on a great deal more battery and, of course, the energy necessarily would go up in proportion.
I saw Mr.Htrschman of the Adams Express Co., and he tells me that you have decided not to use a single motor and differential gear on the small 3000 lb. delivery v/agon. If you use two motors the
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efficienoy would be low and the weight much higher per horue power than with single motor and differential. There are a lot of differentiala on the market which are very simple and which are not liable to get out of order. Where the power and wagon are I think it advisable to use a single motor and differential.
Have you started anything on the drawings for the run¬ abouts yet? I have your book and am writing it up now, and will send it to you the latter end of next week.
I have a letter from Mr. George Hays that the batteries for Mr .D 1x4.8 oarrigge would not be ready for at least four or five weeks. If satisfactory to you, I will rush a motor through at lynn so that the rig can go over complete with one of our latest motors. Kindly let me know as soon as possible in regard to this so that I can start ahead with the motor.
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When you are again^-ready to disousff the electric truck I shall he pleased to bring drawings over to your laboratory.
I am still waiting to hear from Mr. Churchward who is
Incidentally, beg to state that I have, during the last week, conceived an idea how to overcome the "hummel* action due to the weight of the suspended motor, and that with very little change to the method now in universal use I oan avoid this action.
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Mr. J. M. Lansden, Jr.,
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Birmingham, Ala.
My dear Mr. Lansden,
Mr .Hill has sent me copy of your letter in regard to the automobiles 34 and 35. 1 note what you say in regard to
dropping the voltage on these motors, hut from a good deal of experience in these low voltage motors in the last year, would say that 1 do not think it advisable to build a motor below 47 volts.
It is perfeotly feasible, ofcourse, to build, them for lower voltage, but the commutator loss goes up very rapidly, and l think it advisable to put in the extra oellB and get a better motor.
Eor mstanoe, the motor used on the Baker wagon is 20 volts, and stands still on 6.2 volts. This is what 1 consider a very great loss. Again, the controller becomes difficult to keep from burn¬ ing due to large currents, and from a number of experiments which we have lately made a very slight bum ..will have a higher re¬ sistance than the rest of the circuit, so everything points to keep¬ ing the voltage aB high as possible.
In regard to winding of the motor, would say that it will be a series wound motor with two sets of field coils which will be at full speed and the last notch in multiple. In starting and the intermediate points up to the last but one, the fields will be in series, which will give the greatest possible torque with the leaBt amount of current and will give, therefore, really two running points, the last and last but one, which will correspond with your data with a rig weighing 240o lbs. of 14.6 miles an hour and about
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10 miles an hour, without the use of any resistance. I find this series parallel arrangement of the field very useful in starting, as it ,d|dts down the excessive current and at the same time gives a maximum torque with minimum ourrent for had roads and for man¬ euvering. The controller will have shout six or seven points forward; the first point being the high resistance which, on throw¬ ing the reversing switch, will act as an eleotric brake for long coasts down hill. This 1 find relieves the mechanical brakes very rauoh. The next four points will be simply resistance points and used for starting cad maneuvering and are not running pointB,and the last two points with the fields in series and multiple, respeotively, are really the only two running points.
1 suppose you propose to use 2V2 or 3 inch Bolid tires, as your energy consumption seems to correspond to that. Where are you going to place the motor, and what kind of differential are you going to use? Also the type of chain? I should like to have you write me and let me have all the points which you can, and if you will write out any questions which you want me to answer or any data you want, 1 should be only too glad to Bend it to you at the very earliest moment.
1 received a telegram from our feotory at Lynn saying that the Mark 37 motor would be approximately 1SX/Z inches in diameter,
17 inches over the frame, and 20 inches to the end of shaft.
Yours very tiuly,
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Mr. John M.Lansden,
Manager, Birmingham Electric JJ^g.Co.,
Birmingham, Ala.
My dear Ifr.Lansden,
Youre of the 3rd instant received. 1 think it would he better a till if you can get 40 cells in, as you suggest in your letter, as this will, of course, drop the current correspond¬ ingly and help out all around. 1 can hardly agree with you in number of points on the controller, as from experience with several hundred vehicles, 1 find that the controller as made to-day, has too few points, and find it is easier on the motor and gearing having more points, so that there is a longer time to get »t 0MW.
In regard to resistance points.theso are separate from the controller, and can be ordinary enamel rheostats or something similar geared to the c ont roll er, which only has a very few points. 1 rather in favor of having the reverse separate from the con¬ troller, as past experience has proved that giveB the best satis¬ faction. The Electric Vehicle Comoany of Hartford started in to make their controllers with rerers separate, changed to having reverse on the controller and have now changed back to the separate reverse again.
What type of check are you going to use on the steering mechanism? 1 am taking this up now on a gasoline electric touring oar, and have got hold of a very good thing. Perhaps we can swop
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ideas on this matter.
I notice .lia c you say about the generator brake . Do you intend to use the electric brake by short-circuiting the motors themselves or by reversing the motors through a high resistance? If you will let me know which you intend to do,l will discuss the matter further with you. 1 wn looking forward to the blue prints.
X enclose you an outline blue print of the proposed motor. I notice that you do not intont having a removable plug or switch for open¬ ing the circuit when the machine is left. What, prevents this from being started by some person when the rig is left? 1’here have been one or two accidents in Yew York due to this point.
1 urn doing everything 1 esn to push th^se matters.
I note in the last p&ragr^i of your letter that 'the motor is new to you. It is practically the zoate motor 1 have been build¬ ing for the lust five years, but lately 1 have proved that it is superior to a'l other types of motors.
Your 8 very truly,
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the Birmingham Electric & Manufacturing Co.
1 ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILES.
Ala July 2nd. 1903.
I hajify your esteemed favor of the 29th. ult.; permit me to thank you fpr the information contained therein, which I receive and consider in the strictest confidence.
I am much surprised and disappointed at such news, which accounts for a certain vagueness and irregularity in Mr. Hill’s recent corres¬ pondence and various propositions. I could not understand why Hill, in his apparent position, should have difficulty in raising the neces¬ sary money for the construction and development of these first two . cars, from all that he said to me, since I of course had no reason to doubt his sincerity, in the least. Further, I entered into this work, in February, if you remember, on my own responsibility, in¬ tending to construct the two machines on lines that would meet with your entire approval, demonstrating the practicability of my ef¬ forts on these machines, in conjunction with your battery. Since then, Mr. Hill desired the work to be done on the responsibility of the proposed company, which he would organize, to build such cars.
Therefore I felt it only right that the proposed company look out for the financial end, which would be done, as we were so assured^repeatedly by Mr. Hill. I have devoted most of my time since the first of the year to this wprk, and neglected in a way the usual business of my company, in view of the possible future, and my desire to emgage actively in the electrical automobile field.
Realizing the importai
i of the battery factor, your experience
THE BltfMllNGHAM ELECTRIC & MANUFACTURING CO.
t ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILES. ELECTRIC ELEVATORS.
LIGHT AND POWER PLANTS. SIGNAL AND WIRING SYSTEMS ELECTRIC CRANES, HOISTS AND PIWPINO PLANTS.
# 2. t.a.e: 7/2.
Birmingham, ala.
ana interest in this work, I do not care to associate myself or in¬ terests in any way, that would not meet your approval, from either a mechanioal or business standpoint.
I have made no contract with Hill, and would ask you to advise me just what to do in this matter. Would any association , of the right kind, with Mr. Hill make a difference in your interest or inclinations towards our work or results, or association?
I have both machines well under way, and propose to complete them, send them up to you, whether hearing financially or not from Hill, providing my designs and intentions are satisfactory to you.
When may I get the batteries for the two machines? I believe that these two cars, when fully developed, will meet the usual requirements in a commercial field, without difficulty, barring the
rubber tire question.
My ultimate object has been for the past few years, to turn out a common sense machine in every respect, andwith your valued opinions and suggestions, and interest in my efforts, I am anxiously await¬ ing the results of any test or trial you may give them, when com¬ pleted.
Thanking youn again, I am
Yours truly
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The Birmingham Electric & Manufacturing Co.
Edison Laboratory, t~
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I write tol inf orm^you thM; we have not yet been, able to hear from Mr.Chi|roliwpd, re^dkng the t^o ~mo t^r^for ofrr vehT^ icles. I cannot understand why we have ha^^o^^ply ^o^our lettegp.
All our calculations hwt ^een''&E^eTpi?"his motors. We’*have~now reach¬ ed the stage in our wKktwhere we nee^thfcm and thought perhaps you might be able to find out\ whether or not jre can^ST; these motors from Mr. Churchward in any reasonable time. We- have not taken the matter of motors up with the Westinghouse people, having counted on Mr. Church¬ ward. I write the Westinghouse Company to-day, to avoid any furthmr
Our machines are well under way and we will be ready for the batter¬ ies in about two or three. w^eks.
We have on hand two Elwell-Parker motors, approximately the same type as the proposed Cyperal Electric i with such windings, as to make them fit for our temporary service, if there is any delay on the other motor.
Referring to the storage battery blue print, 76B. , the best arrange¬ ment will require, for/ each machine, eight trays of five cells each.
We have. managed to get hold of very good materials, all the way through and have made several pronounced improvements^ occassioned by the practical construction. The' weights are well within the limits.
I have had on hand, for some time, a runabout, which I have been anxious to equip with a battery and get some service out of it or dis¬ pose of it. Are you in shape, at the present time to furnish us
with
the Birmingham Electric & Manufacturing Co.
ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILES. ELECTRIC ELEVATORS.
LIGHT AND POWER PLANTS. SIGNAL AND WIRING SYSTEMS
ELECTRIC OHANEH, 1IOISTH AND PUlfPINO PLANTS.
Birmingham. Ala.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, #2
a sat for a forty volt outfit? I am also anxious to mak# soma oompari Isons with tha naw machines.
Vary truly yours,
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I have' returned from Bad iTauheim, where I LSI CX^L- V'-w^af’ iivjCeXXx.iJL 'W— — ~ ^1 ^'-*'-"'4 vw»^' ^ . had my heart half-soled and heeled, and am now ready to
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consider) the Battery questd/on. Ily folks tell me that _ .
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you have put your) Battery on the markaJt. \Ve had to Buy _ __
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we made our advent last July, Bp.it I am just as eager as "
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OENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
SCHENECTADY, N. Y,
New York Office, 44 Broad St.
;e, N.J. \jj
August 26,19q3
Thomas A.Edison, Esq.j Orange ,
Dear Mr.Edison:
1 am going on to Boston this wee o lay out new motor for my carriage to use in conjunction wit! 35 cells of your
battery. Prom there 1 am going on to Hov* tia for a two weeks'
vacation. Any communications will reaclyfae at Port Clyde,
Nova Scotia, care of Dr.Densmore,and if/ anything should come up,l should be only too glad to communicate/ with you from there.
AC/S
THE BIRMINGHAM ELECTRIC & MANUFACTURING OO.
ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILES. ELECTRIC ELEVATOKS.
LIGHT AND POWBH PLANTS. SIGNAL AND WIRING SYSTEMS ELECTRIC! CRANES, HOISTS AND PUIIPINO PLANTS.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Edison Laboratory, Orange N.J. Dear Mr. Edison: -
I write to inform you of our progress on our two eleo trio oars. 7/e have encountered several unavoidable delays, at the last minute, owing to lack of efficient help, which has thrown us behind three or four weeks. We have received our Westinghouse motors and we are using Goodyear tires; endless solid tires on the express wagon, and their flat tread detachable pneumatic on the passenger car.
I am counting now on shipment the middle of October, as I beleive that we have got beyond any further chamce for delay. I did not want to get them to New York too late in the fall, yet I want them as' near¬ ly complete as is possible. We can promise you two very successful machines from every standpoint.
Kindly let me know where I shall ship them, that is just what point, as they will be already for your batteries on arrival.
Very truly yours.
¥. E. C-ilmore, Esq., i ; ,
Orange, N. J. 1 I
Dear Sir: . .
I herewith, send you a copy of the letter which I have written to Mr. 3rodie. Hr. Brodie sent me this coil to try and I find that after a thoroughly practical test that it far supercedes the Splitdorf coil which is considered the best on the market. People who have seen the coil, dealers, etc. say that they are anxious to get one. Coils are one half of the trouble in gasolene machines.
This one takes care of the one half and with much less current.
Yours respectfully,
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Hr. Brodie:
Bear Sir:
The spark coil you aertrae works so well that I would not part with it. Your coil was substituted for my old one in such a manner as to give it the same conditions which the old coil met with. The engine does not miss and 1 gain more pov/er due to the fact that when the slow spark is used in hill climbing the engine does not choke so, because the spark is capable of igniting the mixture .'Where , heretofore I used four dry cells, which were Weak on the old coil, they now are 0. K. on the coil you sent me. I find that I can run with three cells instead of four, and also use leBs gasolene. Yours very truly,
(jjuAvlv- itktlu
THE BIRMINGHAM ELECTRIC & MANUFACTURING 06.
ELECTRIC AUTOMOBILES. ELECTRIC ELEVATORS.
LIGHT AND POWER PLANTS. SIGNAL AND WIRING SYSTEMS
BIRMINGHAM. Ala. Nov. 16 th.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Edison Laboratory,
Oranga N.J.
Daar Mr. Edison:-
No doubt you aro wondering what lyfs become of our aacliinos and I writo to inform you that we now c^Tunt on the positive shipment Nov. 23rd. Wo have had to suffer a gofed many inconveniences in tho finishing work and I did not want to ^end them until I was sat¬ isfied that the machines wore as they should! be. We have just tried a few days ago the running gears and tho only change that wears making relates to the steering arrangement, v/hiOh was a little too slow in its work, otherwise wo think that the n/chines will stand a severe and satisfactory test in every rospi machines will be shipped, in
one car, alreddy for the batter:
from hore does noti
find that the shipping rato in the various parts and re¬
assembling there.
I regret a seemi: ng these along but
the best result'. I pill leave foxy Now York a fow days after the machin¬ es aro on their wi
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New York Office, 44 Broad Street.
Dec. 8th, 1903.
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
Edison Mfg. Company,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Mr. Edison:-
Please find enclosed blue print showing dimensions of the 43 volt 35 ampere motor. I find I shall he able to give you approximate speed of between 850 and 900 revolutions. I am sorry the blue print is not a very good one, but it will give you the dimensions and it is the best I have at present. I send it over as it will save time.
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Have you received the motor car^Mr. lansden yet?
Very truly yours,
ACT IN® MANAGER
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1903. Battery - Primary (D-03-02)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the primary batteries produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. Many of the items are letters from William S. Logue, sales agent, to William E. Gilmore, vice president and general manager, concerning the use and potential sales of the batteries and the activities of competitors in the field. Many of the documents pertain to competition from, and legal action against, James W. Gladstone, former sales manager for the Edison Manufacturing Co., who began to manufacture similar cells after leaving the company in June 1 903.
Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. The items not selected consist of correspondence regarding sales trips and sales expenses, along with perfunctory legal correspondence concerning the suit against Gladstone.
Related documents can be found in the Legal Department Records.
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY
>3 CHAMBERS 8TREET
fw"-T
EDISON PRIMARY BATTERY
New York, April, 21, 1903.
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W. B. Gilmore, Ssq., Vice Pres. (•. Gen. Hi Kdison Manufacturing Co.
Dear Sir :
Confirming conversationjthat I had with yau on April 19th, I hereby tender to you my formal resignation as sales mana¬ ger of this Company, and also of the Bates Manufacturing Co., to take effect May 31st, 1903, and I shall os very pleased to post my successor fully in all the details of the business during the time intervening. My reason for taking this step is that I feel t-rit I h ive reached the limit 0f advancement: in both Companies, and as I am still a young man, I have decided to go into business for mya9lf‘ 1 wish to take this opportunity of
expressing my appreciation of the very cordial cooperation and the uniform kind treatment that I have always experienced from all the executive officers of both Companies and their subordi¬ nates, and it is Y/ith a feeling, of very genuine regret that I am severing my connection with the men I have worked with for so many years, and who have always maintained such pleasant relations with me during the whole of the time that I have been in the service Wishing you continued success and prosper-
of the Company.
ity
Yours truly,
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EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY PATENT DEPARTMENT
Wm. P!. Gilmore, Esq., Orange, N. J. Dear sir:-
RECEIVED I
JON 26 1903 I -i-ANS....
Your favor of the 22nd inst is received, with en¬ closed letter from Judge Hayes, in reference to patents on the Edison-LalandeV>battejry. 1 will secure a copy of Dalande pat¬ ent Ho. 479,887 and of Edison patent No. 430,279 as soon as possible, probably by Thursday. 1 will alBo have the fact definitely ascertained whether the Edison patent in question still stands in Mr. Edison's name.
Yours truly,
P
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Higgins is the party who made the test referred to in Gilling¬ ham’s letter.
Higgins informs me that the Purchasing Agent, Hr. landiB, sent him two renewals, similar to ours, to he tested with the same number of ours, and report results.
TEST: Gladstone, 350 ampere hours; Edison, 306 ampere
hours; Gladstone voltage, 2/30 higher on 2 ampere discharge than ours. This is the last he has heard of it. Purchasing Agent said that price quoted on Gladstone renewals, 33 l/i & 5/.
Higgins informs me that the Reading Company is furnishing him with their own caustic soda and oil.
He placed an order with his Purchasing Agent about a month ago for 2000 "SS" zincs and 1000 "SS" oxides; he has heard nothing from it as yet. Higgins also informs me that the "SS" cell was called for in the specifications for the Newark Branch installation which the Hall Company secured.
I have been trying to get hold of Mr. Hall all day, but so far have failed. His office oannot tell when he will be in.
We want this order for past favors; you will understand this.
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„„„ "In an independent test recently made by a very prominent con¬
cern in this country of an nSn renewal manufactured by my new company <•- against an S renewal made by the other concern, the result was that the renewal manufactured by me delivered 350 anpere hours, whereas the other renewal delivered only 306 anpere hours before being exhausted. The voltage of the battery was also increased by the use of my renewal. I can make y0u more favorable prices than you are now receiving, and will ship the first order that you may favor me with on the understanding that if you find upon examination of the material supplied that it is not superior in every way to what you have been purchasing, you are at liberty to return the shipment to me and I will not only credit you in £5f.i of the invoice, but will also send you a check to cover the freight charges that you may have paid on same. I am also about to place on the market a new cell which has recently been patented by me and whioh possesses several points of superiority over the batter¬ ies which are now on the market."
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ite . Smith, of the D. L. & W., rehashed, the trouble on the Pocono Mountain last winter in reference to the battery congealing. Claims that Mr. Gladstone called on Mr. Rudd, as well as himself, several times, but never gave either much satisfaction. ,
ft*. A few days after the trouble was reported to us a man called on
them, who informed them that he had heard of the trouble they were having, and offered to furnish a "Soda" that would not congeal so readily. The soda was tried, and it ditfb not congeal. The soda haB been used by the D. L. & W. since then. Shortly afterwards, the same man called with a "renewal" for sale, at abetter price than we quote, a renewal that would also be better. This waB tried, and has been used ever since.
After fully discussing the matter, Mr. Smith informed me that he would give us another trial soon, and if material and price was 0. K. we would get the business. I informed him that hiB company would be treated right by us. jU*xL /toy***# '
The letter from Mr. Mallory was delivered, and the gentleman promised to see that we were looked after.
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Extract from letter from INTERSTATE ELECTRIC COMPANY, LTD.
New Orleans, La.
June 25th, 1903
"Further in connection with the battery business, we recently received a communication from Mr. Gladstone (formerly in your employ) announcing his start to manufacture the same class of goodB at reduced prices. V/hile we have not taken the matter up with him in any way what¬ soever, at the same time we would like to be posted as to what is going on. If you can consistently. give us any information regarding this bus¬ iness same will be highly appreciated."
THOMAS A. EDISON, PRESIDENT. W. E. GILMORE, VlpE-PRESIDENT.
Edison Manufacturing Co.,
SECRETARY AND TREASURER.
Edison Primary Batteries and Fan Motor Outfits. Edison Projecting Kinetoscopes and Films.
Type ”Q" Cel I wsl/cc '50 AMPn,s:Hl
Mr. J. R. Sohermerhorn , ’
Aast. General Manager, Orange, N.J.
Dear Sir:
I beg to confirm my telegram of last night, ae follows: "Michigan Central wire order for 1000 SS cells sent to Orange. How many can you ship in week or ten days. It wont do to make a failure."
I am not quite sure how soon the Michigan Central will want the 1000 cells hut I do not think it advisable to keep them waiting, as their new Purchasing Agent is very quick to cancel an order. I think it would he a good idea to let them at least have a very hig part
shipment at once, and as soon as I hear from you in reply to my
telegram I will take the matter up with Mr. Mock and see how soon he wants the balance. In the latter part of the telegram I say "it wont do to make a failure". What I mean is it won't do to promise delivery
on a certain date and fail to make it. This would give them a chance ,
to oanoel the order, or that part of it that weH&d not ship
If there is nothing very important on hand I will work Mast a little slower than I anticipated. I do not mean to say that I will loaf on the way, hut instead of making two or three towns in one day I will have to go a little slow. To he candid with you I am getting -to- he hard worked.
Mr. Scribner of the Western Electrio Co. is expected here on Tuesday. Of course I will have to wait over to see him.
On my way East I will endeavor to cover the very important points and leave the balance of it until a little later until matters get straightened out a little more. I will keep you fully posted as to my whereabouts.
Yours very truly.
EDISON MANUFACTURING CO..
Edison Primary Batteries and Fan Motor Outfits. Edison Projecting Kinetoscopes and Films.
'ss the company. 83 CHAMBERS STREET. NEW YORK.
hese initials. 304 WABASH AVENUE CHICAGO. K
new york. September 8, 1903.
Daar Sir:
Our attention has been aalled to a oiroular issued by JarneB W. Gladstone, of the Battery Supplies Co., In regard to the battery manufactured and sold by us. Clearly the only reason for replying to that oiroular is to prevent any of our ouBtomera from misunderstanding the situation. Our battery has been on the market for many years. No question has ever been raised as to the validity of our patents, and no olaim has ever been made that it infringed any patent, Mr. Gladstone was in our employ for some time, and left it for reasons satisfactory to him and to ourselves. He is now seeking to build up a business for himself by methods that are obvious. As soon as the Battery Supplies Co. announoed its intention of selling supply parts for our batteries, we began suit at onoe against it, but were much disappointed to find it was doing no business, and notwith¬ standing" its advertisements and oiroulars, was selling no batteries or supply parts.
We would therefore earnestly ask our oustomers to assist us in this matter by giving us immediate information of any batteries or supply parts sold to anyone by Mr. Gladstone or his oompany. We will regard any suoh information as confidential and will bring suit at onoe against any user or seller of suoh articles. We propose to stop, and to stop at onoe, any suoh piratioal infringement of our rights.
We have no reason to believe that Mr. Gladstone will attempt to bring any suits against any user of our batteries. V/e will very gladly defend any such suits (if duly notified of the same) by our oounsel at our expense, and pay any damages or costs recovered.
Yours very truly,
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY,
WEGsHJP
Vice -Pres, and Gen. Manager.
J. R. SchernBrhorn, Esq.,
Edison Manufacturing Co., Orange, N. .T.
Dear Sirs-
VffogrMtiW&Zr ;©fe*S] 29-1903 .
CEi3 ;',0 1303
nANS . . .
I have your letter of the 28th inst. enclosing list of people who have worked on Peroxide plates between May 1st and Sept. 1st, 1889. Please accept "my thanks.
Yours truly,
// 'S
ims/ed.
HV/H-FP.
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EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.
EDISON PRIMARY BATTERIES AND FAN MOTOR OUTFITS EDISON PROJECTING KINET05EQFE5 AND FILMS.
October_3J.-,— 1903
I^MAiN OFFSCE.S
W. E. Gilmore, Esq.,
Vice Presdt . & Gen. Manager, Edison Mfg. Co.,
I enclose you the decision; the judge rendered it orally. The other side had a stenographer in court, and furnished a copy to Offield, Towle & Linthicum, who made the enclosed copy for you.
I hare made an appointment to i
5 Mr. Smith of the D. L. & VT.
R. R. this afternoon, and will report on Monday.
Yours very truly,
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY,
Manager of Salves.
WSL:HJP
[ENCLOSURE]
UNITED STATES CIRCUIT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OR ILLINOIS . Northern Division.
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY, :
Complainant :
vs . :
Western Electric Company, :
Defendant . :
IN EQUITY.
OPINION OP JUDGE KOHLSAAT DENYING MOTION POR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION.
As I understand this case, the plates here are old and used in a combination patented hy the complainant.
The numbers or letters on them indicate simply the size of the plate, which would indicate the batteries they were to be placed in. I don't understand that in such a case there can be any trademark attached to the plaintiff by reason of such use growing out of the manufacture of any one of the articles which enter into that combination patent. I don't see what there is to one of these plates that does not appear in the original patent on the plate itself . If , for instance. the. plaintiff : had- placed.-, uncm . .the market a peculiar beveled-3haped plate which was new, which was peculiar to himself, for the purpose of being em¬ braced by the frame of the battery, that might be a fea¬ ture.
I know of no law or ru}.e whereby a party is pre¬ cluded from making an article that isn't patented and isn't protected in any w ay, for use in a certain combi-
[ENCLOSURE]
nation which may bd held to be a patent. I can see no¬ thing in this case that can be maintained. I don't see anything in this case to justify the Court in granting a preliminary injunction. 1 don't think it amounts to any¬ thing more than the numbering of parts in the Deering case .
I recall the slip which specifies a plate for Edison batteries , and I think they have a right to do that unless the plate itself is trademarked in some way.
1 think it is a case where the preliminary in¬ junction should be denied, and it is denied.
EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.
MAIN OFFICE AND FACTORY ORANGE, N.J.
EDISON PRIMARY BATTERIES AND FAN MOTOR OUTFITS EDISON PROJECTING KIN E TO 5 COPES AND FILMS.
fc/ November G, 1903
W. E. Gilmore, Esq..,
Vice Pres. & Gen. Manager, Edison Mf-g. Co.,j Orange, N. J.,
Dear Sir:-
I enclose you a letter received from Mr. Doubleday, of Doubled^/ Hill & Co., Pittsburg, Pa., with a Gladstone letter attached. I have not replied to Mr. Doubleday as yet j what reply would you suggest?
Yours very truly,
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY,
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Battery supplies company,
J. W. GLADSTONE, PROPRIETOR.
S. W. CORNER JELL1FF AND AVON AVENUES,
Newark, n j.. November 2nd, 1903. 10 THE TRADE
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aDle for Edison "batteries, aniong others.
Judge Kohlsaat, who heard this mot i9n in ^CircuitCourtfor the northern District of Illinois, on Monday , 26th, 1903 »
denied the motion from the banch and said, among other things.
"I can see nothing in this case that can be maintains ed. I don't see anything in this case to justify the
Court in granting a preliminary injunction. I a.,
it amounts to anything more than the numbering o± parts, in the Deering case."
In .order to frustrate similar attacks made upon me and my cus¬ tomers, I desire to notify them that henceforth I shall brand or label my renewal parts and all the articles dealt in by me with my: name, Gladstone, and I particularly request the trade and a^l persons dealing with me to advertise my goods as "GLADSTONE^ goods, and to ask for my goods as "GLADSTONE" goods, and to sell them . as "GLADSTONE" goods, because the trade has already recognised the su¬ periority of my goods, and 1 do not want the renewal parts and batteries manufactured by me to be confused with the renewal parts and batteries manufactured by the E^son Manufacturing Company.
Thanking you for past favors, I remain.
Yours truly,
BATTERS SUPPLIES COMPANY
Newark, N.J., Nov
William B. Gilmore, Esq,,
"Edison Manufacturing Co. Orange, N. ,T.
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X have your favor of the 9th Inst, enclosing Bill IfS&m* plaint against James Gladstone, executed by Mr. Edison. I will get additional affidavits and file the suit at once and apply for a Preliminary Injunction.
If Gladstone marks his plates in ao prominent a manner -:-,h that no one can he deceived or think .that they are of Edison manu¬ facture, we cannot enjoin him on the ground of unfair competition.
I, therefore, wil.1 pay no attention to his circular.
I enclose a copy of the Federal Reporter, which has a de¬ cision by Judge Platt of Connecticut, which Beems directly in point. Please send it back after reading it.
I will write directly to Doubleday. X enclose copy of
>sing Bill of'''G'dms/
my letter to them
Yours truly,
hwh/ed.
Enc. ZH.
[ENCLOSURE]
Double day, Hill & On., Pittsburg, Penn.
Dear Sirs:-
Newark, H..T.» Hov . r— 1903.
The Edison Manufacturing Company- has handed wo your letter of the 4th intlt . for reply. In answer I would say that two suits are now pending on United States Letters Patent granted to Mr, Edison, to restrain ■••he use by ft lads tone or any of Ills purchase^ of the copper oxide plates now sold lay him.
The decision to which he refers was in a motion to pre¬ vent his customers from representing that the pi vtes wore Edison plates or the manufacture of the Edison Manufacturing Company. We were unable to prove against denials on the part of the defendants that such representations we re made, but his circular shows hew he regards the outcome of that suit.
HWi/ED,
Yours truly,
Bear Sir:-
Your favor of the 11th instant has been received. I find that Mr. Gladstone obtained two patents on the 3rd, Nos. 742,856 and 742,857, copies of which I have ordered and will hand to you as soon as received.
M.
Yours very truly,
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A motion for a preliminary injunction against Gladstone will c 0lne up before Vnce- Chancellor Pitney at the Chancery Chambers Jersey City at 10.30 o'clock in the forenoon next Monday, Attorney General Me Carter will argue the matter for me. He iB the best lawyer in the State to handle the Vice-Chancellor. I want .you, Brody, Prank L. Dyer and Bodwell, Gladstone’s former bookkeeper on hand at the hearing, as some witnesses may have to be nut on the stand to answer statements in Gladstone's affidavit.
Yours truly,
William E. Gilmore, Esq.,
Edison Manuf a« turine Co., Orange, H, J,
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Bear Sir:
•I beg to enclose herewith copy of letter I received this morning from Mr. C. A. Christoff erson, S^ml Engineer of the Chicago Great Western Ry. Co., who, as Mr. Logu^flnrormed you, is one of our very good friend® in the west. 1
In reply I have taken the liberty of quoting a discount of 40fi for Mr. Cornelison. I have galled his attention to the agreement tiMUt the National Phonograph Co. has with its dealers, and informed him that this outfit would he shipped and hilled hy our company. The circumstance are such that I consider it advisable to hill the goods to Mr.
Chr iBtoff erson, although we will of course ship them direct to his friend.
I trust that my action in quoting this discount will meet with your approval. When the shipment is made the National Phonograph Co. will charge the goods to us a^Huthority and I will personally send Manufacturing Company's Req. to you so you can approve the discount before it goes along to the billers.
You will note from the P. S. in Mr. Christoff erson' b letter that their Purchasing Agent Mr. Ward has Blgned the battery contract for the ensuing year and has forwarded it direct to New York.
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St. Paul, Minn. Pec. 1?, 19o3.
Mr. J. A. Garvin,
, Western Mgr. , Edison Mf g. Co. ,
Chicago, Ill,
Pear Sir :
I got into trouble yesterday by telling one of our Superintend¬ ent* how I Intended to surprise my family Christmas morning with one of your phonographs.
He is an old friend of mine, and I told him I got this from you, when down in Chicago the other day, at your regular wholesale price.
He asked me if I would not write you and ask you if it was not possible that he could get one of these machines, together with the records, at your wholesale prioe also. He lives in Port Podge, la. , which is a small place, and he claims that he cannot get what he wants from the dealers there without paying a very high price, which he does not feel like doing.
Now, if I am not asking too much of you, I should be glad if you would let me know what yon would let him have one of these machines for; also how much per dozen for the records. He of course is not asking for anything more than you give your retail customers. He would like to have this phonograph for Christmas and I should like to hear from you by return mail. If it is not possible for you to do any better for him than he can do with the retailer I will, of course, not expect to put you to any extra trouble. I assure you that I will not say anything more about our deal to any one.
Yours truly
(Signed) C. A. Christoff erson Signal Engineer.
P S. Our Purchasing Agt. , Mr. Ward, has signed the contraot with you for battery supplies and forwarded it to your New York office.
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Dear Sir;
I received this morning your letter of December 23rd in reference to the Christof ferson matter. I do not think that this affair will give the National Phonograph Co. any trouble, as I wrote Mr.
Christof ferson quite fully on the subject and gave him to understand that under no circumstances should Mr. Cornelisen mention the compli¬ mentary discount that this company allowed him on the outfit. Had it not been that I wanted to deliver the outfit before ChristmaB I certainly would have taken the matter up with you’ before writing Mr. Christof ferson. Should any other case of the kind come up I will simply turn them down, as you suggest, unless there are circumstances which would lead me to believe it would be desirable to make some concessions. In that case I will refer the matter to you. I of course do not want to do anything
that will by any chance conflict with any arrangement that Mr. Logue may have made or haB in mind.
Yours very truj
1903. Battery - Storage - General (D-03-03)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the commercial and technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery. Included are letters concerning the progress of Edison’s battery work and the materials to be used. Also included are two undated letters from Edison to Herman E. Dick regarding the composition of cells and the anticipated cost of producing them.
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Your letter of February 5th Is just received.
In reply I would say that, at the present time I an engaged on some experimental work Improving the lead storage battery, in the interest of Mr. George Westinghouse. While this battery is of entirely dif¬ ferent type from the one in which yon are interested and on which you have been working, you would undoubtedly prefer some one else under the circumstances.
I regret very much that I am at the present tine, unable to of- fer ay services and to renew associations whi ch^always remember with pleasure.
I take this opportunity of inviting you again to become a mem¬ ber of the American Electrochemical Society, which was organized less than a year ago, for the purpose of promoting the interests of elec¬ trochemists and whi ch now has a membership of over 450, I send you under separate cover, a list of members dated November 6th, 1902.
Among those who have joined the Society since then are Dr. Julius Wagner, Leipzig; Prof. Philippe A. Guye, Geneve; Dr. John Shields, London; Victor Engclhnrdt, Vienna; Dr. Rudolf de Neufviile, Frsnk74?r'/'
a/mj Dr. Kuna Lnndolt, Turrfi, Switzerland; Prof. Dhas. F. chandler. New York; Dr. Victor Goldschmidt, Heidelberjj; Dr. H. w. Wiley, Wash- injTtnn; Dr. Chari os Kellner, Vienna; Dr. Richard Harder sohmidt, and many other prominent electrochenints. We should have had your name on our list of Charter Members, hut will be satisfied if we can fret you in now.
Thank in (j you for your kind letter of inquiry, and hoping that there may, in the future, be somethin- in which I may consistently be of service to you, I am
Yours very truly.
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In roply to your latter of February nth, I
would say that 1 do not really thik there would be auy inoonsisten- •y in «y acceptance of a retain ./ft™, yon, with the und.rstandln,, that It la to oover only oasea f which the alkaline battery le in¬ volved, i should, however, not feel warranted In dolnp ao without fleet consulting with Mr. Westinshouse , and asc.rtainln5 that It would be entirely eatl.factor/ to hit,. Js it is not a natter of 1,. ..diate haste, I win defer Ay final decision „„tll after seelny him, which will probably be /within the next ten days.
\J£ours very truly.
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March 3.5, 1905.
Mr. Thomas A. Fdison,
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Replying again to your letter of February 11th,
I would say that, since writing to you on February 17th, I have seen Mr, Westinghouse ancl talked with him concerning the experimental work I have in hand-4n his interest. I did not mention your name to him nor ask him directly, but found out indirectly that an arrange¬ ment such as you propose would not be approved by him at the present time. I regret, therefore, that I am obliged to decline yoixr invi- tn.tion for the present.
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^ i yj/ I have the permission of Mr. Louis A. Glass of the
'gurtset telephone Co. of this city, with whom you are acquainted, to fr^FV/you to him as to my standing and ability. I want to handle yourYnew batteries and autom'obiles on this CoaBt and the Hawaiian Islands when they are on the market.
I have been in business in California for twenty-five years, and have a large circle of acquaintances over the state. I recently sold my business, and not liking idleness, and having great faith in the future of your batteries, speak thus early that I may not be too late in making an application for an agency, to sell on commission, or to purchase outright from you to sell again, or in any way that you may see fit to handle your business on this Coast. Have ample means of my own to oarry on an extensive business without asking credit.
_ , Major Prank McLaughlin, with whom you are also acquainted,
I know, would recommend me to you if you should ask him as to my standing, although I have not seen the Major for some months,
, . .. I am a machinist by trade, but have not worked at it for
twenty-five years; have had considerable experience in electrioitv and storage batteries, installing several plants of my own in con¬ ducting ny business in the northern part of the State.
n . A As s?°” as y°u have Perfected your battery, I will be pleased to furnish you with satisfactory references as to my financial standing and ability, and hope that we may be able to do business in the future.
■ror. vn„ + „ faw?ar2y wllJ be appreciated, in which I would like
for you to indicate if there is a probability of our doing business, and provided, upon investigation later on, you find that I am as I represent.
Yours truly,
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THE COMMERCIAL ACETYLENE CO.
80 BROADWAY.
W. PRE8TON HIX,
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir:-
Since X saw you, two different parties have called to see me to assist them in organizing storage battery companies. One is a French battery, invented by arprofessor in one of the colleges of Paris; the battery is simply an old paste battery, covered by an envelope which he declares keeps the paste from shaking off and makes the battery permanent. I enclose you a sample of the envelope.
After the paste is put on and dried, it is dipped into a solution which looks like collodion and it is then hung up to dry. I also enclose you some figures of the inventor in comparison with the
exide battery. .
The other is known as the Jewell plate, and he claims to have no paste, but to use a lead plate, and he guarantees his battery to be 30/ less weight than any other and 25# greater efficiency. It is probable that you know all about these.
I have been looking up the transportation business as sug¬ gested by you and I think there isa great deal of money in it.
Can you give me an approximate idea when yourobatt eries can be had in large numbers? Are you willing if I organize a company large enough to do the transportation of New York to give this company the exclu¬ sive use of your batteries as far as transportation is concerned in the City of New York? In talking to my friends they want some agree¬ ment if they put in a large amount of money to protect them from competition. They do not care to put out their money and exploit
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.the business, and:.letsome body come behind them and take advantage .of their work and what mistakes they may make in the first wagons, and really reap the benefit of the business. Can you suggest any arrangement which would protect them?
I am not satisfied with my present business, while I have made a success of it, it is too small for me to continue in.
Hoping to hear from you, and that we can come to some ar¬ rangement, I remain
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I was talking the other day with r gentleman acquainted itr the President of your Storage Battery Company r^^^toldvme *^^0” y<m had a million dollars in orders plaoed with your?" new o<|^any^eor*' 3atteries but that you would not deliver any until you were thoroughSy^fcisf led with your work.
I was very muoh delighted to hear this good news and also the statement that the end of August would he the beginning of your deliveries.
This same gentleman wanted a battery for 500-16 o.p. inoandesoent lamps 110 V. operated four hours .
Is there any use in making inquiry of your Company as to prioes and date of deliveryT
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On the 23rd of May, 1901, 1 addressed the enclosed communica¬ tion to you, and you afterwards gave us an order for some samples of Nickel Steel, and you have evidently adopted it in your new battery.
• I enclose a clipping from the Scientific American in -which you speak of importing your steel, and paying 40# duty thereon. Our Company has at Carnegie, Pa. one of the most modem mills in this country for turning out Damascus Steel, and also Nickel Steel, and we should be pleased to fill your orders, if you will kindly give us
I notice this morning a very flattering account of your inven tion published in the North American, and congratulate 'you on the. same.
I hope you will let me hear from you as our Company controls the patents for making Nickel Steel in this country.'
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May 23rd, 1901.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq._,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir:-
I notice by the morning Press that you have invented and per¬ fected a hew storage battery, and the fact that the cells and plates of this new battery are made of steel is a detail that attracts my at¬ tention, of course it would be of great advantage to you to lighten the weight of the battery and yet retain the same strength; 1 therefore beg leave to make this sug^stion of using nickel steel treated by the Damascus process.
Nickel steel now being manufactured in general use for armor plates runs about 3-l/2# nickel and the balance open hearth steel: The
tensile strength of which is 97,500 lbs. . to the square inch, this same
steel treated by our process runs the tensile strength up to 240,000 lbs. to the square inch.
These facts may be of service to you, if so you can communi¬ cate further with me. With best wishes for your health and happiness,
I am,
Yours vory truly,
(Signed) Bo K. Jamison.
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■ The*- efficiency of any power producing oystom bmst ho measured by its net results In money , ut the ond of nny given period of tine. -fudged by this standard, the cheapest: not hod of producing power by meant* of heat engines now known is the com¬ bination of a fuel gao engine, dynamo and Edison battery, worked at an even load every hour in the twenty-four . The economy lies in the fact that any given output con be secured with the least capita! investment! henco the least amount of stand lot; charges; the least amount of depreciation and repairs and the smallest ipmnUty of fuel. The deciding factor is not' the relative ef¬ ficiency of any one element of the combination, but the com¬ bined efficiency of the whole, together with the ability to secure a large output of power fur a abort tine from a small plant in constant operation. The efficiency of the plant named results from the fact that the hunt engine and dynamo work under the best conditions all the tine, and not, as at present, for a relatively short timo, while tho battery enables this oconcmi- cally generated power to bo used as desired. It ban already been shown by experience that the use of lend batteries oaves in the ecu t of power, oven in face of their rapid deterioration, because the generating efficiency is improved , but the Edison battery gives for tho first time an element in which the de¬ preciation is insignificant .
The efficiency of the Edison Battery is as high as that of any good lead element of equal storage capacity, but its gg-ntl efficiency over a term of years enormously exceeds that of any system previously used, because the initial efficiency is
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maintained . This is due to the fact that the battery merely absorbs and dives up oxygon i and that neither id the plates or elootrolyte are there any secondary or decomposing reaotiono as in the lead-acid elements. Given a fair initial efficiency which is always maintained, then the combination named becomes an almost ideal one for power production, particularly when it is considered that the Edison Battery can receive or discharge onoraous amounts of energy above the normal without injury and with only a small loss in efficiency, which in itself consti¬ tutes an achievement tin 1 quo in mechanical devices, and one that will work on industrial revolution in many branches of the world's work.
1903. Battery - Storage - Foreign (D-03-04)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the patenting, manufacture, and sale of Edison storage batteries in Europe. Most of the items are letters to or from Herman E. Dick, who was authorized by Edison to exploit the battery commercially throughout Europe and who extensively tested and promoted the cells during 1903. Some of the letters contain brief references to Dick's involvement in the commercial exploitation of Edison's ore milling process. Also included are letters to and from Sigmund Bergmann, who was planning to manufacture Edison's storage batteries at his factory in Berlin.
Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. Among the items not selected are additional letters from Dick and Bergmann regarding storage battery tests, patents, and the European market.
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i Protection of Patents', the
JUNGNER PATENTS j
in Sweden, of March U, 1899, and January 21, 1901,
FOREIGN countries,
months from tho dates aforesaid rospoctivoly.
| TVo would draw special attention to tho dis-
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was OBLIGED to SUBSEQUENTLY ANNEX to i | dated Fobruary 5, 1901, \
JUNGNER ACCUMULATOR CO.,
LIMITED. .
148072.)
Per WALDEMAR JUNGNER.
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jTntwort erbitten an jTbiheilung Jft Oudenarder S/r. 23/32.
Herman lick ^sq.
Edison Laboratory
My dear Dick,
Orange
N.J.
Your pleasant news of the 8th , regarding the big improve- \ ments Edison has made on the battery , I have received , for which please aooept my thanks , and I agree with you that , if the battery can do what you say , an enormous business is for the near future in sight , and Edison , yourself an I can make lots of money .
I hope that'Bdison'will, make the new machinery f oh ‘ our German Company which are
about to be finished , to suit the new improved cells . If I only can start in once to manufacture , I will show you and Edison , how to turn out batteries quick.
I am very glad to hear that Edison has found reference which knocks out the jungner Patents contpletely , as this concern are making an awful stink all over in claiming that Jungner and their Company anticipated Edison's invention for a long time . I have taken no notice so far of the technical and newspaper articles regarding the Jungner patents and inventions . If you or Edison want us to respond
Bergmann-E/ektricitdts - Werke, AktiengeseHschaft (Maschinen-Abthellung)
Z. Herman Dick Esq. Orange .
Here in Germany or anywhere else , please let me know , and we will shut off Mr. Jungner's concern very quick , hut J don't think myself it is advisable to bother with them at present . What doeB Mr. Edison and you think about this ? -
1 note that you are leaving on the "Bliicher" on February 7th for Paris , and I hope that you will not make your stay too short here in- Berlin .
My family and myself are all well , and with best wishes
X remain
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JTntwort erbiften an Herman Biot Esq.
Jfbfhel/ung jrr Edison Laboratory
Oudenarder Str. 23/32.
Orange N.J.
My dear Dick,
I have received your telegram , which reads:
" Dont buy press or anything for battery until recaive my letter changes made " . f
I have at once tried to stop the Hydraulic Press and the PUhofc Hress , but they were too far advanced , practically 3/4 finished ed I let -ge-the raanufactur^bahead and finish up these presses , which we no doubt can use in our process of manufaduring anyhow .
-1 presume the ohangeB are simply regarding to the size of the plates.
I hope that you will be able to bring along some batteries of the newest type when you come over here , or you better have them sSb t from the steamer direct to me via Hamburg or Bremen , with the hS£e$sary instructions how to charge and discharge them , so. we will have ^something ready and give you results by the time you come to Berlin
please tell Edison not to wait until he gets the last hnprjwement oh the battery , but give me a battery to start manpfac-
Bergmann-Elektricitats ■ Werke, Aktiengesellschaft (Maschmen-Abtheilung)
2. Herman Bick Esq., Orange.
turing , as lie will no douibt make improvements for the next 2—3 years to come . If we wait too long , I am afraid we are losing valuable
time , as the other storage Battery People - I tell you - are not
lying still and idle .
Edison and yourself will agree with me , that with a new
invention , no matter how good patents you have got - it is one of
the strongest points , if you can go and swamp the market with that invention in as short a time as possible . That keeps in my experience all the pirates and wolves away .
I want you to understand that I am red hot for starting in to manufacture . Prom the batteries we have already here and from Professor’s report , and from our own tests , I feel confident that I can begin manufacturing and show Edison and yourself , that there 1b good big money stored in the battery , besides. electric current.
If we had to-day any number of batteries , I could sell them at any price right here in Germany.
Please be sure , that Edison will read this .
Trusting i will meet you and your family next month here in Berlin , in usual good health and spirits: , I remain
S Yours very truly
Pi S.
When will my Automobile with the new battery be shipped ? Klein will give you check for the same on receipt of bill.
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JJntwort crbiiien an JTbtheilung JYT Oudcnarder Sir. 23/32.
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liy-dear Edison,
Your letter of January 23rd I have received and I have read it with, much interest .
Referring to that part of my letter of January 6th speaking of my manufacturing the battery for you or the Company to he formed , 1 may not have expressed myself clear enough as per our understanding when"! was in America .
TPhat Y. really meant was , that I am to start manufacturing on a small scale under your instructions with the special tools you have made , to show that the battery can be manufactured cheaply when the Company is going to be fonned .
bt course it is clearly understood that you will bring out the battefy and put it on the market in your name through a company to be organized or as you may see fit , and take in as many concerns as you may find practical , but from what I have been told by some
Bergmann-E/ektricitdts- Werke, Aktiengesel/schaft (Maschinen-Abtheilung)
2. Tla. A. Edison Esq. , Orange .
of the very concerns you want to interest , that they themselves have for a long time experimented on the same lines as you did, nickel- iron and alkali electrolyte ,• of course with negative results and now ridicule the idea , that you have succeeded making an efficient battery on the same principles , on which they failed.
But nevertheless the General Director of the Berlin Eledtric Street Bailways , M i c k e , ( former Minister of Einance ) a per¬ sonal friend of mine, has repeatedly asked me when you will he ready to supply cells for their puffer batteries , for which purpose your cell is unequalled.
Also the city of Hannover has suspended its decision about changing their railway system -to overhead lines , until practical results are shown with your batteries , as they are compelled to give up th*e lead batteries now in use , to which effect 1 have a letter from the Managing Director ; this also is the case in the city of Munich.
Now Edison , dont think for a moment that I am going to inters fere with , or be in the way of any of your plans or dispositions, as no one else than yourself is entitled to. reap the full benefit of your invention .
let it once more be clearly understood what was agreed upon in your Laboratory between yourself, Dick and myself , as you state in your letter of 23rd January , and it is not and has not been my intention to depart from this understanding.
Please dont -delay sending over the few tools necessary for the initiary manufacturing which is only to be a basis for the
Bergmann-E/ektricitats- Werke, Aktiengesellschaft (Masch/nen-Abtheflung)
3. Th. A. Edison , Orange .
negociations when forming the Company in Germany , in which you referred to , can he interested .
It is perhaps advisable that you send along a man i us for a few months until we get started.
I hope this letter has set you straight and defined position , and I think if you would write me once in a while lines about your ideas , you may feel assured that they will followed out by me .
I remain , with kind regards
m
the concerns
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our mutual a few
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My yesterday's cable has no doubt reached you:
11 Nickel Iron combination Patent granted and laid out for publi¬ cation " .
It was no doubt gratifying news I was able to transmit to you. Of course the patent is now laid open in the Patent office during two months for public inspection and any one interested can make cojy or extract of it . There will of course be a lot of interferences as is the case with every important patent , but as the patent office has brought up everything possible during its examination , it will not be too difficult to keep off the wolves . This being the most important patent of the whole series , the patent office took particular care to make the examination as strict as possible , so it is very doubtful that any serious interference can be entered .
About two weeks ago , the application on the iron electrode ( German Patent Office number E 7951 ) was granted and published , specification also having been laid out at the Patent office for public
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Thos. A. Edison Esq., contd.
inspection .
You have no doubt been informed about this in the meantime
by Eyer .
I had a letter from Dick from Paris in which he says , that he would be here in a week or ten days .
With kind regards I remain
W.O.
March 5th 1903.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., ... <? ..
ORANGE, N.,T.
My dear Edison,
//haVe JV8t written Mallory regarding that terrible oc¬ currence at oeaent Works. This will be very disturbing for you and will interfere with your enjoying yourseir in the South. I cabled arnmnd— nf-r to inquire if Mallory or Darling were injured.
I have Just received Bftrgman'a letter, forwarded from the Laboratory, with your notification asking if we shall furnish Burgman with what he wants. As I am going to Berlin on Sunday next I will talk this over with hita when I see him.
Pollen and Bhodes have returned full of energy and life, very much impressed with what they saw.
I have placed a 0ell here with Professor W. ifibbefrt, who has, perhaps, the greatest knowledge of storage battery than any man in England. He made dll the tests for Gladstone and Tribe that are so much quoted.
I noticed in the "Electrical Beview* published a week ago his article (I enclose clippings) , and as he made quite a point of the Cell running, 3000 miles (this 1 was afraid et5& the time when it was proposed to exhibit it), I thought best to meet him and show him
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
the new curve as well as give him some general information. I sent Stewart for him and he broughtwith him the Editor of the "Electrical Review" also. He was simply astounded and amazed with what I told
him. Eou can readily imagine twenty years experience with the lead
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battery and his results^how they would contrast with the results of your battery. He has made some curves, showing first the curve I have, then a curve comparing it with a high discharge rate of the lead cell. This curve X have not seen, but he promised to send it to me to-day. He will publish it in the "Electrical Review" on Saturday next, and I will send you a copy. It will set them to thinking in this country anyway about that simple curve.
When I saw Parshall he was completely t’aken with the battery.
He suggested that Mr jftbbewt make one series of testB and Dr. Fleming, of the University College of London, make another, he to have charge of both tests and he to make the report. Professor Hlbbeft is a Professor of Physios at the Polytechnic, Regent Street, and both are men of high standing in their profession.
We will soon have the pot boiling all over Europe, as these ,
tests cannot go on without it leaking out and tremendous interest oreated. What I am waiting now for are some standard cells with thin plates. (Jive me these and I will show quick results.
Stewart and I drew up a little statement as regards efficiency. That seems to be the first question asked by everyone, and it is a
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question of such minor importance, as Mr. Parshall expressed himself yesterday, that it has no hearing whatever on the situation.
Certain parts of England are using great quantities of Mond Cas. It is claimed that this gas can be made for 3 cents per thousand, but In asking for Parliamentary powers to make pipes, the different Mond Companies in every district agreed that in no case shall the selling price be over 12 cents a thousand. Of course you know that Mond makes this gas from anthracite screenings, but he has recently been successful in using soft coal slack, the trouble heretofore having been to purify this soft coal gas, but he claims now to being successful in that.
Stewart suggests well-known authorities on storage batteries for our tests In Sweden, Messrs Paul Schoop and Svants Arrhenius, both of Stockholm. I think they will be as good men as we can get, and as soon as I receive some more test cells I will put them in possession of one or two for testing.
Trusting you and yours are in good health, with best wishes,
Sincerely yours
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My dear Edison,
We had yesterday the visit of Professor poerster in regard to the tests he is yet to make on the battery so as to be fully prepared for interferences , that bo doubt will be entered against your patent on the Iron-Nickel combination . •‘:"r
He submitted a few points which he desired that they should be put before you , so as to assist him in his researches by answering all , or such of his questions as you deem proper.,
1. Electrolyte. _ Which impurities must be excluded from
the electrolyte , either of metallic or non metallic character?
2. Iron ELeotrode . what is the chemical combination of the iron electrode ? He does not ask anything about how it is made , but it actually is composed of ,
3. Analysis of the Iron Electrode . When he rade his ana¬ lysis of which he speaks in his report , he found in each case tbat the result showed a shortage of about , which he cannot explain.
Can or will you explain him this shortage? ( this is also mentioned
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4. Reserve farts. He would like a number of Nickel and iron elements suitable to replace part of his testing cell of which he received one yesterday.
5. Testing Cells. _ He considers it of advantage to have about
one dozen of such small experimental cells • they should be sent without electrolyte.
Of course you will consider these questions to be prompted by the Professor in your own interest , as Professor- Foe rst er says, that he could get at the bottom of these questions by continued re¬ search , but this would be at the expense of time and money.
I may assure you and Bergmann is of the same opinion , that
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Hoping to have your reply byAearly mail , I remain , with kind regards , also from Bergmann,
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April 24th 1903.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
Orange, N.T.
My dear Edison,
I arrived last night from Nice in response to urgent telegrams sent me by Mr. Ainsworth and others of the Co. to attend a mooting hore to-day. I received your cable sent from Easton and note same. X had a session with Mr. Ainsworth last night lasting four hours and we went over all the advantages and disadv an tabes of the different methods of bricquetting, which will be the princi¬ pal subject brought up to-day at the meeting, and it is probable that he and I will write you a letter after the meeting. When yon were in Florida and I could not get any information as to what
was going on at Glen Ridge I wrote Mr. AJlsworth and asked him to write me if there was anything new developing. I have Just re¬ ceived a letter from him in which he says he has been too busy to write, but that the best news he has for me is that he has perfected a new process at Silverlake, whereby the cost of Oxides will be materially reduced, and better still that the output will be largely increased. If this proves to be correct we can supply the first Cos. at least on this side from Sijverlake , if you think best addilt will not be necessary to start with chemical plants right
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I have also received a letter from Mr. Hays In which he says he expects to ship my Automohlle the first week In May, which Is splendid news.
I am going hack to Nice to my family on Sunday and then go to Paris to await the arrival of the Cells and the Automohlle.
With heat wishes,
Sincerely yours,
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Glen Ridge, 1ST. J., May is, 1903.
Mr. V/. S. Mallory, V.P. ,
Edison storage Battery Co.,
Orange, II. J , SUBJECT:- S. BERGMAM.
Dear Sir:-
Vle have your letter of the 13th inat. together with one re¬ ceived by you from the above named gentleman under date of April 29th in reference to the dies and tools we are now building for the Edison Stor¬ age Battery Co. of Germany.
You will perhaps remember that on October 21st. you issued the follow¬ ing orders to be ms.de on account of the Edison Storage Battery Company of Germany, cancelling all previous instructions:
1st. "Order one press from the Manville Mfg. Co.
2nd. "Making the necessary dies for the perforated cups to fit the machine from the Manville Mfg. Co.
3rd. "One Perforating Machine (Supply one of the 5 now on hand at Glen Ridge, but make the perforating rolls according to latest designs.
4th. "One Flexible Die Outfit for pressing iron consisting of one smooth die and one corrugated die with small oorrugations.
5th "One set of Flexible Dies for pressing nickel, consisting of one smooth and one corrugated die to be made the same as the new niokel die made for our cells (having coarse corrugations)
6th. "Grid Die complete"
You further advised us: "On the above you are to oharge actual labor and material. plus lOOfe, exoept on the press purchased from the Manville
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Company, which is to be charged at cost, a proper allowance, however, being added for the handling, etc.".
You will also remember that at that time it was our intention to make one pair each Flexible Smooth and Flexible Corrugated Dies for iron for our own use, and one pair of Grid Dies; these to be carried along with those made for the German Company, and to pro-rata the cost - thuB en¬ abling both parties to secure the benefits derived from oarrying along a greater number of dies at one time.
Referring back to the list as enumerated above, we would say that the press from the Kanville Co. was ordered and billed to the German Co. January 8th/03.
THE BLANKING and DRAWING DIMS for the perforated cups we oould do practically nothing with until we could settle definitely as to the thick¬ ness of the pocket, which, at that time, y/e were experimenting with.
PERFORATING MACHINE we have on hand, it being one of the five made at the Laboratory. The perforating rolls for this machine we could not make until some decision was reached as to the number of perforations wanted, and you know we have been experimenting with these until now; having prac¬ tically settled on the medium or 2500 perforations, which appears to be the most acceptable.
FLEXIBLE DIE OUTFIT for iron consisted of one pair Flexible Smooth Dies; and one pair of Flexible Corrugated Dies (fine corrugations). These were made up for the thick plates, most of the work on these being comple¬ ted before deciding upon substituting the thin for the thick plates.
THE FLEXIBLE DIM OUTFIT for nickel consisted of one pair of Flexi¬ ble smooth dies and one pair of Flexible corrugated dieB (coarse corruga¬ tions), and v/ith these we carried along a similar set of each for our own use (we having on hand at that time the two sets of dies for the iron plates). All these v/ere praotically finished for the thick plates be¬ fore changing over to the thin. Since the thin plate v/as decided upon
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we made two or three different sets of dies before securing the form Y/hieh ’would give us the best crimp, and it looks now as though one pair of Flexible Smooth Dies and one pair of Flexible Corrugated Dies, with coarse corrugations, would be sufficient for pressing both the iron and the nickel plates, which will be a decided advantage.
There is still, however, some work to be done on the other thin plate dies, for our experiments were carried along on but one pair only.
SUB-PRESS DIES FOR GRIDS We are carrying along two pair of these, one pair for the Edison S. B. Co. of Germany, the other pair for ourselves and are dividing the cost equally. We have, however, been obliged to take some of our best men from these to push the work on the flexible dies so while they are pretty well along, there is still considerable work to be done on these grid dies.
10 AD I JIG & ASSEMBLING MACHINE In adopting the thin plate and putting in 28 of these in each cell instead of la of the thiok plates, we wish to call your attention to the many advantages we gain in addition to the higher voltage, and being able to charge and discharge the cells at a high- er rate. We were compelled to design and make a machine for loading and assembling the pockets, as we could not make briquetts thin enough under the old method.
You will remember that we used to weigh out in a pair of scales the proper amount of moist iron or nickel, thBn press this material into in¬ gots by means of a Hydraulic Press, then cutting the ingot into briquettes! putting the briquette into the lower half of the pocket, next putting the cover on, then passing the pockets through a roll to turn the edgds of the cover, then grooving the sides, after which, they were put into the grid forming a plate. These plate3 than pressed in a 200 Hydraulic Press.
In using the active material in this moisten state, we were compelled to wash all the plates by means of passing a current through them a few minutes, in order to clean them. All these operations meant a great many operators, and by actiial count in the early part of the year, we found
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that 12 operators could put together and clean only about 100 plates per day of ten hours; that method was crude, to say the least.
We have now in operation loading and assembling machines, one for iron and one for nickel, and four more in course of construction.
By UBing dry active material, passing it through a funnel, we are able to load and assemble pockets enough for from three to four hundred plateB per day with about half the number of operators as was required formally for turning out 100 plates in the same length of time, or
in other words, seven operators with one of the new machines will now turn out more than 36 operators under the old method, which we consider quite a saving, and in addition to this, the plates do not have to be washed be¬ fore being assembled. ,■
Another advantage is that all of the cups are loaded to within a fraction of a gramme with the same amount of material; hence all cells should have the same electrical capacity.
Trusting we have made ourselves clear in this matter; we are,
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With kindest wishes to all,
I am.
Sincerely yours.
P.S. please show this letter to Mr. Edison. I return herewith Bergmann’s letter and have forwarded/yowr letter to him.
I have your recent letter enclosing copy of a letter written from London May 13th concerning the supply of Nickel, and beg to say that I called on Mr. lames Barrett on Monday and had a long talk with him. Prom what I gathered, they at present have simply a lot of undeveloped mines which are probably good prpper- ties. He says. by the 1st of February they will have a tramway completed so that they can deliver Nickel Ore, which they would guarantee would run &% metallic nickel. I do not know whether you could use the ore, as you do not mention that part of his tender. I asked him to submit a letter covering all the points I brought up, and ha agreed to do so and have it ready for to-day’s mail, but so far it has not been received. They have not shipped as yet any ore from their mines, but there is a mine adjoining theirs from which several cargoes have been shipped to Rotterdam, and there is now on the way 20 tons of this ore, and from this lot
he agrees to let me have what I want, providing you desire to have a few hundred pounds or even a ton of this to experiment with to see if you can ubo the ore more profitably than the metallic nickel. If you want some of this, it is due here in about a month. Please advise me. He will guarantee his ore to run exactly the same, and
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HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
he has shown me reports and assays from both properties which are practically identical. He is not just now in a position to fur¬ nish any metallic nickel, but he said if he could enter into a con¬ tract, running for a term of years, to take a specified amount each year, his Company would erect a water-jacket furnace and ship the matte to any refineries in Europe, hdvei.ifcefefililed and furnish you the metallic nickel at the price named. So I believe I have gone as far with this matter just now as it is possible. Of course it would be a big saving if you could use the nickel oxide
instead of having to have it refined. 1 gave him a general idea of what I believed would be wanted after the different European Companies were in operation, and he seemed very much interested.
The notice you enclosed I saw and at once wrote a friend¬ ly letter to Mr. Harmsworth, not for publication, explaining that there was nothing in it.
I am glad to know the Sudbury propositions open up very promising.
Am going back to Paris on Saturday or Sunday, as I am anxious to put the- new cell in the College Electri^for testing, and it will certainly be there on Monday morning. It is surpris¬ ing to me to note the great strides made in electric vehicles since last summer. They are most beautifully built and are really
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
Bergmann has written ine inviting me to Berlin, but at this time 1 have nothing to do there and shall not make him a visit.
He advises me that he has received his Presses, etc., that he has ordered and as soon as he can &et the filling machines and dyes he is In shape to go ahead and turn out a few cells .
Then X was in Uerraanli last-. I was of the opinion that perhaps this might be the policy we should work tinder, but I want to be sure that It Is, and even If we decide that It would he better before bringing out a large Company there to erect what we might term a small sample plant, In no event should we let the active material get out of our control. At present I am under the im¬ pression that considering the way business Is done In Germany, it perhaps would be the best to do this. It is, however, a matter that is not so urgent that we would have to Jump at this conclu¬ sion, and I would like to have you write me your ideas. Once a manufacturing proposition Is shown In Germany practically un¬ limited capital can be obtained, but this is a matter we must never let get out of our hands, and as long sb we are the only ones who can supply the active material we may perhaps be perfect¬ ly safe; but, as I have Bald, it is so important that we want to be sure that vie are right. Perhaps you will feel like leaving the policy to be pursued in Germany largely to me, as I shall be on the ground and able to take all circumstances into consideration.
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
The new cells, according to your last report, will have a capacity well above 200 watt hours, and the even discharge in the different cells show how well the last work has been done. The run made by the studebaker is amazing, and I take it that the Battery used was the one I was to have brought over,, and it demonstrates that the old cells are not so rotten after all. However, all ad¬ vantages gained by the new cells are enough to warrant this delay. That waB a splendid run to Mdrristown and back, and I presume you used the 21 cells in the Baker - that is, the Batten' that was in the Baker when J left . *•
If I can get the balance of the large cells for testing and my automobile very soon I will wake up from this Rip Van Winkle sleep and see what can be done .
With kindest regards,
I am,
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Polytechnic, Regent Street, London, M.
July 13 1903.
I an much obliged for yours of the 11th instant .
She coll is more and more astonishing. Parisian was here an
hour ago, along with a gentleman (:>, Johnson) an old friend of hr. Edison's. I showed then t3io record of my work, and unless I am much mistaken they were more than pleased. There was enough evidence in the shape of hard figures and curves to show th?.!, , apart from all opinions, the cell is unique. I have now no fear of undue heating. Today lias given me the; 120 ampere discharge, and though the cell got hot, it was not so hot as to prevent mo going on to tho 150 amperes tomorrow.
By .,his tins tomorrow, these discharge curves ought to he in nand. X have GO, 75, 90, 120 amperes already and was able to show them to Hr. Parshall. He will give you Ms opinion. Kino is one oj. simple delight to find an instrument so admirable in design, construction and working.
There has not been the slightest sign of frothing except for the solitary minute I mentioned to you. I have watched it on many days tejr 12 or 13 hours, and found nothing to suggest a single weakness.
Re lantern slides. I would like slides of all parts, as well as of assembled parts if that be possible. The size used 3^ inches by 3^ . That is 8.3 centimetres each way.
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Slrall tie glad to receive them when Convenient to you.
You will find enclosed two curves. One sheet shows effect of high rates and recovery. She other illustrates recovery from a dead short for 48 hours . I think what is written on the sheets will explain. There are plenty of other curves , hut I am too busy to got them through tonight.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) V/. HI3HERT.
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H.E.PARSHALL, H.Inst.C.E. Consulting Engineer.
Salisbury House, London Wall, London, E. C.
Quote IT0 X.
14th July 1903.
H. E. Did:, Esq. . ,
ITonnandy Hotel,
Paris.
Dear Hr. Dick,
EDI SPIT BATIEKf. X not Hr. Ilibbert again yesterday and
want over the tests lac 1ms made on the standard Edison cell.
The results of the tests appear to he very remarkable indeed.
Hr. Hihbort tells no that everything that has been put forward in connection with the battery has been realised and ho lias no reser¬ vations to make from any point of view. He says that the battery is the most remarkable one that he lias ever seen. In order to complete the toots ho suggests that you allow him to take your automobile for a tour through England. He is willing to make all the tests provided you pay the expenses of running the vehicle. I do not think the expense would amount to very much and the test would no doubt be a very valuable one. Hr. Ilibbort is very enthusiastic and his results have been so conclusive that it would seem very advisable that he be allowed to wind up matters by on eert ended practical test.
I have had a talk with Sir Ernest Cassel regarding this
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H. E. Dick Ena. (2) 14 July 1903.
battery Business and he did not seem to till: it: there would Too any difficulty about getting mon&y for erecting a factory for tho manufacture of these ‘batteries . He stated lie would "bo entirely euidod by my judgment in the matter. Shis will, 1 think, indicate to you the advisability of making a test which will be conclusive in a practical way.
Yours faithfully ,
(Signed) II. E. PARSHAXE.
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All goes '.’/oil. The cell behave s magnificently.
With respect to lantern slides, I think those you mention might suffice. There is however one point. The finish of , the coll is strikingly good. My assistants and others (in- \ eluding myself) are impressed with the ease of handling- and \ safety secured by the valve and other contrivances at the top.
\ If you could make a slide of one or both of these, well and good. Jailing- this , I ghall bo happy to receive those you lifer to, namely.
\ a) Complete cell.
Yb) Skeleton grids.
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jl)\ Caps filled and open.
The ho re I work with this cell, the more do I 'admire it.
In accordance with your desire, I shall try to concoct a report early rexfc week if Mr. Parshall can come up to discuss it with me. Tie re will bo some few points which will not really be ready bu\ the major portion of the facts are in my hands and v/ill be sent off as soon as possible. If I post it next Friday will that suit you?
Sincerely yours,
(signed) W. HIEDEIlT.
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Polytechnic,
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London, V.
July 25 1903.
Dear Hr. Dick,
Hr. Marshall and 1 have had a long consultation about the report, and have settled on main points. I have written a draft, and am putting in result of latest experiments. The very latest was an attempt to ascertain the result of a one-hour’s charge . The cell gave me a return of 124 ampere hours. I
oelieve if I could have put through a stronger current for the hour, more than 124 ampere hours would have been given out .
Io is evident that the coll will charge very quickly.
Ve also discussed your suggestion that I should start on my automobile trip from Paris. X am not unwilling to do it, even though it breaks up my holiday. The cell commands such interest that this final practical test is worth a little dis¬ comfort. Provided that you will clear all my expenses on the trip, I will arrange the matter. 3,ly programme will then be to join my family in the north of England and stay there till you wdvj-oe me uhau your car is tuned up and ready for me. I shall then journey to Paris, sending word to Hr. Parshall for his dri¬ ver to follow on. Before starting, I want to make an experi¬ ment which will take one or perhaps two days. On the enclosed sheet you Will find what I want arranging beforehand.
The following points arise out of the draft report :-
1.
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1. I have devised, an experiment to test whether the standard cell loses any of its charge during a long rest. Mr. Parshall thinks it a very necessary thing, and I am arranging it to run
on whilst I am away on holiday. It cannot he finished for five or six weeks, and till then we are unable to speak quite so confidently about the "life" of the cell as on other points You will therefore remember this whon you receive the draft report. It is important to you that the same care and skill should be exhibited in this question of "life" as in other mat¬ ters we have tested, and wo advise that it be treated with reserve till our experiment is finished.
2. In looking at tho small cells, I notice that the plates are somewhat altered. The negative plate is a dull dark grey colour. Tho positive plate shows a brick red tinge. At the time they were received both plates looked tho same; bright nickel-plated.
Have you any information about this change of colour? It indicates some slight chemical change on the surface of the steel plate , and we would like to know what the change is and whether it progresses. There is some evidence of it being greater oh the older cell.
3. Can you get me a small quantity of the active materials a little of the iron and a little of the nickel peroxide .
It would help in substantiating our statements.
4. A 60 ampere rate for the Standard Automobile cell means a 3 hours run only. Mr Parshall agrees with me that a cell is better calculated for a 4^ or 5 hours run. For the Standard, this would make the normal current 45 amperes instead of 60.
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Would it not 1)0 v/ell to give 45 amperes as the normal value.
I shall he very glad if you will obtain answers to these questions as soon as convenient. You will probably got the interim report on Wednesday or Thursday. It may interest you in the meantime to see a rough copy of the main curves of charge and discharge. It is enclosed herein. I shall be curious to see from other reports how far the colls supplied to different men are in agreement. Have you had their reports?
Yours sincerely,
W. HIBHERT ,
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Proposed trip on Automobile . Starting from Paris:
1. pit a "western Voltmeter ail'd Ammeter to oar, so that I can road current and pressure at any time. These outfit to cover all range of current and pressure. Voltmeter say from
0 to IDO volts. Ammeter say from 0 to 200 amperes or up to the maximum that the loading in wires will stand.
2. On my arrival, talco a standing test for oomparison with a similar ono when trip is over.
a) Charge cell 3 at BO amperes.
b) Discharge at GO amperos.
o) Charge at 100 volts for 1 hour and discharge.
3. Charge up and off.
4. Ascertain route from Paris: with stations at which I can charge up: road maps, etc.
ITote . The car could be fitted up and experiment (a) com¬ pleted before I arrive, to save time.
I was telling Hr Parshall about your 'automobile: that you usod 30 colls only, and that it seemed to ,bo very stiff according to Mr Pdison. If there is any fault in the car itself, he suggests you getting another for the run, transferring the colls. The British Automobile C° have a good car but their motors are in¬ tended for 80 volts. That would bo a better voltage for your car if you could put on 15 or 16 more cells.
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HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
Sept. 15th 1902,
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
Orange,
lev/ Jersey.
My dear Edison, . — - J
I arrived Sunday night frbm Paris, and several days before leaving was with Mr. Harjes and family down in their
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country home in Normandy where V had a most delightful time. I found Hibhert on Monday a i Saturday l wehthi
lorning, he having returned from his trip the Saturday before. Ke was out in that hurricane and generally had bad weh ther, but he is simply delighted v/ith the results of the Batt ery jrnder what he considers most trying conditions, and he is at present writing a report which will be V6ry interesting in everjy' detail\ and will show the gradients of every hill and the contour of ere.ry road travelled. Ke will now charge the Battery and discharge it and seo how it compares with the record he made before leaving I^aris . I looked over tes in h|.s book made during the journey, and I
i very fair report. He made 32 miles on
some of the see it is going to be
one charge of c very much.
hour over very bad roads. This pleas£
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I informed him of the changes you were about to make as to get a greater output, and he says it is just the thing
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C.
to do. Ho is a most valuable man to have with us, and after h« is through with his reports T am going to suggest that T re¬ tain him, as he is very moderate in his charges and would be a good man to have with us in the future.
I am to see Parshall at 3 o'clock.
I trust that you have by this time forwarded to me the curves on the cell of the neve type.
With best wishes,
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.C. 17th Sept. 1903.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
.Orange,
New Jersey .
My dear Edison,
I learn that Junger Patents have been taken in on speculation by. a Syndicate here, and T was informed confidentially by a particular friend of mine that they propose to make things warm for me when I commence operations. This pleases me, because going along in an even sort of way and having things go too easy doesnot agree with me, and T am never so contented and happy as when I am in a scrap.
I have retained Fletcher Moulton and Gordon. We have used Gordon before in our Patent matters, and I have known Fletcher Moulton many years, and if we are going to meet with opposition here T thought it best to retain them. This implies no liability on your part or on mine and only gives us the first call on their services should we desire it. You know how much stock I take in this Junger business anyway, but at the same time it is Just as well to be in good fighting trim.
I am having Gordon prepare a statement of our Patents in case I am obliged to show it, and I shall give him all the as¬ sistance I can and professor Hibbert will also show him that
HOTEL CECIL,
LONDON, W.O.
there is no similarity between the cells, also that Junger's Patents are inoperative. This statement I shall have for my own information and not make it public unless necessary.
I had a long interview with Parshall yesterday, and at last he seems satisfied that the cell is a real cell and one of great merit.
I hope to receive the 21 cells the latter part of this week. Parshall examined the motor on the Studerbaker and said it was no good, still in spite of this Hibbert has been able to make a good showing on his run. T hope to have his report now in a
few days.
With best wishes, T am,
Sincerely yours,
y, -vr HOTEL CECIL,
^ 50 * I5' 'LONDON, W.C.
U^rbsJi UgJpt7 22nd 1903>
My dear Edison,
I cabled you yestert
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rived on thk"st. louis" i right with the\xcaption ^ of something like\
dead, although thereWs k difference in potential between eaoh pole and the can. ThiiWis exactly the case with the defective cells in Paris, and in /shipping some of the inside rubber insula¬ tion must have got broken. \nie cells were beautifully packed, and it seems strange th^4 these tl^ee could not stand the shipment.
The balance of the yiast cells weW a great improvement over any I have seen before, /and the stamp ingW the positive mark in the top of the can is splendid, only in 4sembiing the boys must be careful to get the top jt the can on properly, it)? in a number of cells that I had in my Studebaker the tops are put on wrongly, so that when you look iown the tray the valve and top are not in regular line. At firs/fc X thought that they were connected wrongly, but I soon saw that this was not so but that the top had not been put on properly.
I notice in the new cells received yesterday that in ad¬ dition to the can being marked J^t£e terminals are also marked, so
that there should be no chance of making a mistake .
Prof. Hibbert is still going on with the Studebaker, al¬ though his school commenced last Monday. He discharged the Battery to practically zero ten days ago and then allowed it to remain discharged. Yesterday afternoon in my presence he charged it for one hour at about 200 amperes and made 32 miles.
On Parshall's advice, I keep my Studebaker at the City & Surburban Blectric Go's, place, a corporation well-known here who, perhaps, have the finest garage in the world. The leading share¬ holders of this Company are my friends in the City, and with whom I have previously done business. At this one place - and they have two - they have on lease at the present time 168 broughams, for whioh they receive ^250 per month rent, the lessee furnishing and paying for his own chauffur, they keeping the vehicle charged and in repair. It would be a most profitable business if their battery loss was not so enormous. They also sell electric vehicles of their own manufacture, having gone into this line of business about a year ago. They have a beautiful new model, the nicest I have ever seen in the electric vehicle line, it has a Panhard body and at first glance it looks exactly like a Panhard motor car. It is equipped with two 35 volt motors (all the electric
vehicles are Bhort in motors), and there is Just room in front
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f or,, four cell trays and in the rear for a like number, making 32 cells that I can get in easily in this automobile. They offered it to me and I am going to equip it. It weighs about 1400 lbs. without a battery. I am sure the two motors will give us a much
higher efficiency, for the Studebaker motor cannot stand the battery X am satisfied of that and so is Parshall and we have a great loss there .
I went up to the Baker depository and looked over their vehicles, but they are too much like playthings. They do not look as though it was a real serious business running one of their cars, so I determined to avail myself of the offer made by the Surburban Company to accept their car.
Of the 24 cells you sent me on the "St. louis" 21 are in good condition. I have five that I brought over from Paris out of that lot of fifteen that you sent me for testing purposes, and X cabled for six more, as stated above, This will give me 32 cells, which are just the number that I want for this new car.
I am sure that we will get the best results from this car of any¬ thing that we have ever tried.
Prof. Hibbert is completing his report of his ten days’ run and will have it ready this week. X had l\im write yesterday to the "Electrical Review" to say that his tests in the laboratory and his actual tests with the automobile on the road for some days fully bore out your curves that were published in the Review last March. Hibbert is to read the.-ldtdfcngr-pa|>er before the British Society of Electrical Engineers next November, and his subject will be the Edison Battery.
I hope you will be able to get the six cells off so that I can equip the car as quickly as possible.
I am having two more trays made here out of teak wood; not having the facilities to paraffine them, I shall have them painted with three coats of rubber paint, which I think will answer.
Gilmore and his wife are here, and they are lunching with me to-day. His ideas have changed as to the possibilities of trade in Europe, and I am quite sure he will go home chock full of big ideas as to what can be done on this side.
I hope to receive the curves sheet of the new cell soon.
I have cabled my wife to come over, and I am going to see this business through if it takes all summer.
Bergmann has written me that the Government College at Chariot tenburg do not get as good results as Prof. Forester and they themselves do. He says his own tests correspond exactly with Prof. Forester and these two correspond exactly with all the tests X have made, so that I have wri tten Bergmann that they surely could not have followed our instructions or they would get exactly what we do. On second thought, however, it may be that they have some cells in which the pockets were shy the proper amount of active material.
I will soon get into the business thick here, but not until I am ready for it.
With best wishes, I am,
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., Orange .
Sincerely yours,
HOTEL CECIL,
I " CECELIA. LONDON."
LONDON, W.C. a 9th Sept. 1903.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
ORA HOE, H.J.
My dear Edison, /
Many thanks, for yours 0/ the 17th. I note what you say about cost of plant^ etc., and/ am sorry your Iron-filling Machine
i given you so much trouble! I note Bee's nm fro4
Atlantic City to Philadelphia.
With the new cell,\Nf it\is made up of 20 positives and 10 nega¬ tives, it should certainlXrun over 100 miles.
I note what you say about the Pennsylvania Railway order¬ ing cells for car-lighting. l\hava a cell with the Eastern Railway of Prance on tefet, and they say that if it were not for this cell coming out a lb it has, th\y would discard electric lighting as they could not afford to\keep it up with the old type of cell. / \
When I think how I shipped the cells that I did from Paris to Pinzi, Bergmann /and to Hibbert and Dr.Vleming it makes me shiver, because i tj would have been most unfortunate had these cells not arrived! in good condition, but they all did, and I packed them in a box with about three inches of saw-dust all around the cell, first tying the cell UP with waterproof paper,
and not one went wrong on the journey. Of course it was a small package and would be subject to more violent handling than a large heavy box. At any rate, I am thankful that they arrived in good condition.
I am very pleased to hote that you are going to use drop -steel forgings on the terminals.
To show you how precise Hibbert is in everything, I only have to say that this morning he discharged the cells in my automobile to see how near they were to the test that we made in Paris before leaving there. The battery was only 3 ampere hours short, and when Hibbert looked for the cause he found that in a few cells the electrolyte was. below the top of the cup on grid and he has filled it up and is now charging it at the same rate and quantity that he charged in Paris and will discharge it tomorrow morning. He says he knows to a certainty that he will get the same number of ampere hours that he did in Paris. Fancy, hbeing only 3 ampere hours short of 160 ampere hours and yet when Hibbert found it he knew that there was a reason for it. He says the cell is bound to give the same quantity output, providing the same quantity is put in every time. His report on his run with the automobile will be something more perfect in detail than you have ever seen, and he hopes to have it ready on Saturday of this week.
All my people are away excepting Wallace, the Deputy- Governor of the Bank of Bngland, who just returned several days
I spent a couple of hours with Dr. Fleming, of the Uni¬ versity of London, yesterday. I 'st^^ed him a cell at the same time Hibbert received his, but vacation was coming on, and he did not make a single test on the cell until a few days ago, and he was so pleased with his results that he sent for me and asked me what he might do with the cell. I told him just what he could do with it; in fact, said he could do what he liked with it, and he is most enthusiastic.
Studebaker wrote Hibbert in reply to a letter he sent from Paris that the motor on my automobile was 24 amperes and 40 volts. If this is true, it accounts for the reason that I did not get 70 miles and also accounts for the heating.
I shall probably leave for Paris for a few days the last of this week. I expect my wife on the 12th of October.
Mr. Hibbert is very anxious to get a cell of the new type so that he can get a few curves before the meeting of the Insti¬ tute of Electrical Engineers. Hibbert has been asked to read the leading paper, and the subject will be the Edison Battery, and it will be easily the most important paper that has been read for 10 or 12 years. He is so taken with the battery that if there is any improvement he wants to be able to state what it is, and as he says he wants the pleasure of saying that the battery is much better than he ever hoped for. He has written me this letter which I enclose.
With best wishes, I am,
Sincerely yours,
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)2 OUDENARDER STR.
. Hoy. . 5th. . 1903 .
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Machine Department.
r»r— ■ My dear Dick:-
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Yours of November 2nd has come to hand, and I am pleased to note your remark about Dr. Sell, as I am convinced that he does his utmost
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without "punching" ; he is a man of high integrity and you will readily understand that he could not do any good by trying to urge the Patent Office officials, which are themselves not in position to do a^thdngj^*^ if^an extension has been granted to the interfering Tarty for bringing in its argument.
1 enclose a report of Dr. Sell on the present situation of the German Edison applications up to date and no doubt you will see the things in
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a more pleasant light than you did heretofore.
You will see that all Edison Applications have been granted by the Patent Office, only the Copper and Cadmium Electrodes having been denied, which have lost any interest through the Nickel-iron combination.
The "Master Tbtent" as Dr. Sell qails it on the construction of the plate, has been finally granted, printed Patent Specification I send you enclosed.
Anothdf Patent Hdw 142098 is on the Zinc
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electrode, is finally granted, of which I also enclose printed specification. About the other applications, they also have been granted; the report of Dr. Sell gives you full information.
You say that a great deal of capital is being made out of the fact, that we haven’t the German latent. Now, dear Dick, ae you see from Dr. Sell's report, we have the patents and you know, it is the best fruit that is attacked by the worms.
Dr. Poerster makes a most pertinent remark in his report when he says: "It would have been very desirable, however, if before the expiration of the "laying-out" term of the German applications, less attention would have been attracted throughout -the world to the Edison Storage battery!
It is a fact, that^less reports and curves had been published A
before the German Patent applications had been through the critical
statd# these would-be inventors and would-be infringers would not bother us so much.
I sincerely hope that after reading Dr. Sell’s statement, you will be less opposed to the Dresden Street Car experiment, which, if carried through, will be a most valuable demonstration that would wonderfully also assist you in your plans, f orating companies in other countries. If you still insist upon looking everything for a year or more, as long as the interference suit may last, you have to quietly look on, when more Infringers orop up and proclaim their "alkali batteries".
I have written to Professor Poors ter requesting him to give me his report- as far as he has gone a a gafT' Seubel is trans¬ lating the japer by Sohoop in the ElektroteohttUWhO Zeitsohrift and you will have it within^a few days.
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Well you say, "don't worry about the Hagener People" and I dont worry, but from your recent letter It seemed that you worried; nor do I worry about the Jungner battery, as -there is nothing in it that oan be obstructive to the Edison oell.
The letter copy of Ihrshall I have read with interest and thank you for it.
I am pleased to learn that it is your intention to visit Berlin with Mrs. Dick in the near future and I have no doubt, but that your visit here will be both pleasant and instructive. With kind^ regards,
icerely yours,
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My clear Bergmann,
Your telegram of 13 th as folloYrs : - "Very important, matter lias turned up on Edison Battery.
"Could you toe liere Sunday next? Ansvrer". to vdiich 1 replied that X could not coma on account of ao many engagements that I had made.
In ansv/er you seriS" the follov/lng : - "Hathenau of the Allgemine elelctricitals gesellschaft asserts "that he has acquired from Edison trie Battery patent rights. "Vliiat about this?"
To 'this I sent you the folloviing reply "No, Edison has alvcays maintained vilien German Company v/as "formed the leading man might come in same as in any other "counti'y and so inform Rathenau".
I received a letter from Mr. Edison in which he said that Ratlienau had oalled on him, and requested that when the time came for a German Company to he formed he desired to he given an opportunity to join the Company. That is all the news I have
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whan I begin to exploit the Gorman Company.
I have gone through the Patent Report made by Dr. Sell, and it is a very complete document,
I think you misunderstood )ny .remark about Dr. Sell. I meant no reflection on his integrity or ability, and only said that my experience was 'that any professional man doing work for you will bear- punching up once in a while, and X think that you will agree with me that this is so.
I am not opposed to the experiment on the Dresden Street Oar line. It will take a lot of cells which Mr. Edison cannot furnish at present: in fact, in your report you say that on
aocount of tiro high hold&ge necesaery that the half cells will be used. I myself have not yet received one of these half cells yet; nor do I expect to get one for several weeks yet. vftian these cells are ready, and if Mr. Edison is willing to furnish them, and considers it a good test, as he doubtless will, I am sure that I shall not object, as Mr. Edison is quite able to say what he wants to do in this line without any advice from me.
What I am trying to do is to get this business started on a sound, substantial basis, and do it in a businesslike manner.
I have been over here since February last, and, Within a few days I have made up my mind to go home and spend two weeks in America during the Christmas holidays, as there will be nothing
doing on this side for at least a month about that time. Vftien I return I will have full particulars of what has been done and what
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there is to do in the future, before we oan say that the business is on a oommercial basis as regarding the newest cells.
I an certain that Mr. Edison prefers to put out his last improvements in quantities rather than the present cell, which, however, is very good.
I am pleased to note that you have written Professor Forester, and if he could furnish his report as far as he had gone, 1 will be very pleased to get it.
• ; I also note that Mr, Seubel is translating that paper
by Stshoop which I desired for Professor Hibbert.
Yours faithfully,
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13-32 OUDENARDER STR.
BERLIN, n . Nov. 25th, . 1903
My dear Edison:-
Your latter of November 9th
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has given me much pleasure and I know that you do everything possible in pushing tools and battery to completion and judging from the battery itself, that I have received, you are close to it and will reap the benefit of your good and hard wort on this invention in the near future.
You have no doubt, spent a big lot of money for the last two or three years on this in¬ vention and other enterprises that you have as yet not been able to realize upon, that I somewhat fanoy you are in need of funds; should this be the case, dont be bashful and let me know; I am quite willing to loan you for six or twelve month or longer, 25,000 or 50,000 Dollars on your notes; you can telegraph me upon receipt of this letter and I will send the money at onoe.
I am pleased to learn that you have overcome that little .short-oirouiting trouble ot the battery and am also glad to learn that you have sent me ten more cells and send me instructions
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how I can fix the faulty cells I have here.
Hoping to hear from you at an early date, I remain, with best wishes,
Please remember me to Mrs.
(Ofojirs very truly, Edison. /
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Yours of December 5th I just received and I hasten tonreply. That I should have gone to Hagen to acquire an interest on the Jungner patent is simply nothing hut a hig lie and after you have read the translation on the Jungner battery, which you find enclosed, you will not think that I am a big enough fool to waste my money and time on such a thing.
I think no doubt the Jungner people- could make great capital out of it, if I would take an interest in their I think, hopeless case . How, dear Dick, just let us start in and manufacture the Edison battery and we will t,: in shut theia upedit d — n quick. I have the battery running in my new automobile now which is an extension brougham and it will make your heart feel good when you come inhere and I give you a ride.
The paper of Prof. Hibbert on "The Edison Accumulator for Automobiles." I have Just received and for which I thank you very much.
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This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to a variety of subjects. Included are documents that deal with more than one subject or that do not fall under the main subject categories in the Document File. Among the items for 1903 are letters from longtime Edison associates, Charles Batchelor, William J. Hammer, Thomas C. Martin, and Josiah C. Reiff, as well as letters from John H. Harjes, John H. Kellogg, and the firm of Pilling & Crane.
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I was very glad indeed that you were able to attend the Institute Dinner, and cannot but feel that' you and Mrs. Edison were rewarded for your participation. I know that Mr. Carnegie was very much gratified to see you there and I think it stimulated him, for they all say that he was never in better form.
As you are doubtless aware, we have advocated very strongly in our columns for the past few years, the desirability of the telegraph companies developing and fostering automatic or machine telegraph systems. You may remember that I spoke to you about this a year or so ago, recalling the work which I, myself, had seen you do Borne twenty-five years ago; and that you. expressed your belief that the telegraph art demanded progress in this direction. I happened to hear casually that you were in the Western Union Offices recently and that you showed quite some Interest in the Buckingham Telegraph System there, which we have been watching pretty closely for some time past and in which we venture to believe at least one solution of the problems can be found. We have also had descriptions of the Murray and the R^Land Systems, and it certainly seems that out of 411 this material the companies ought to be able to find something which would
develops the ideas which Wheatstone and yourself hammered^originaljk ly. I have seen a lot of good work done by the Buckingham System, and as we are constantly advocating an advance from manual to machine methods by the telegraph companies, I deuld be very glad indeed to have your opinion on the subjeot so that I might know how it Btrikes yon. I might state that my feiend, Mr,
Herbert laws Webb, Sir William Preeoe's nephpw was so impressed with the practical utility of the/^ystem^S^he^went over with it recently to England to bring it to the attention of the tele¬ graph authorities there. It stands to reason that the enormous amount of business whioh the English authorities have to handle at low rates, makes desirable improvements of this character, and should enable